Went back and watched the Hogan slow mo clip again after John's post. What really struck me was how Hogan seemed (at least when demoing in slow motion) to get the hips to a slightly open position very early in the downswing and then just stop them there. The club seems to come from well above parallel with seemingly stationary hips.
Now I can relate this to momentum tranfer, but you always hear 'keep the pivot moving'', 'maintain pivot lag' and so on. For example Tomasello says once the hands get below shoulder height the left hip must keep moving - this seems almost diametrically opposed to Hogan's demo.
Can anyone clear the fog here?
Chris
Hogan uses an "Instant Acceleration of the Hips" at Start Down (10-19-C) to power the Club via Centrifugal Force. Like you said, Pivot Lag is never Released (2-M-1). In other words, the Hips are always leading the shoulders during the Downstroke. Pivot Components (feet, knees, hips, shoulders) slow down from the ground up, but it never gets over taken (e.g. the Shoulders never overtake the Hips). By muscularly trying to spin the Hips you will disrupt the Momentum Transfer needed to induce the right amount of Throw Out Action, which will also affect your Rhythm (and therefore Hinge Action too). With all the Momentum transferred to the Club, this pulls your arms and body into the Finish position.
Hogan uses an "Instant Acceleration of the Hips" at Start Down (10-19-C) to power the Club via Centrifugal Force. Like you said, Pivot Lag is never Released (2-M-1). In other words, the Hips are always leading the shoulders during the Downstroke. Pivot Components (feet, knees, hips, shoulders) slow down from the ground up, but it never gets over taken (e.g. the Shoulders never overtake the Hips). By muscularly trying to spin the Hips you will disrupt the Momentum Transfer needed to induce the right amount of Throw Out Action, which will also affect your Rhythm (and therefore Hinge Action too). With all the Momentum transferred to the Club, this pulls your arms and body into the Finish position.
So the hips can be leading even if they have stopped?
guys you have it all wrong thinking of your hips.monitor the hands from the top straight line delivery and the pivot will take care of itself.think of nothing but the hands and the bvody will do what it has too.you are going to have to trust me on this one.i do not even give pivot a single thought.trace that staight line and then deliver it on a staight line.that is why it is called a hand controlled pivot.monitor the hands nothing else.if you are tracing straight lines then the pvot will be in the correct sequence and position.it really is that simple.
guys you have it all wrong thinking of your hips.monitor the hands from the top straight line delivery and the pivot will take care of itself.think of nothing but the hands and the bvody will do what it has too.you are going to have to trust me on this one.i do not even give pivot a single thought.trace that staight line and then deliver it on a staight line.that is why it is called a hand controlled pivot.monitor the hands nothing else.if you are tracing straight lines then the pvot will be in the correct sequence and position.it really is that simple.
Indeed, the Hands are responsible for its Delivery Path and Plane Line Tracing (along with Right Forearm). However, it's still a Pivot Stroke Delivery (6-K-0) using the Hands Controlled Pivot (5-0 and 6-G-0).
guys you have it all wrong thinking of your hips.monitor the hands from the top straight line delivery and the pivot will take care of itself.think of nothing but the hands and the bvody will do what it has too.you are going to have to trust me on this one.i do not even give pivot a single thought.trace that staight line and then deliver it on a staight line.that is why it is called a hand controlled pivot.monitor the hands nothing else.if you are tracing straight lines then the pvot will be in the correct sequence and position.it really is that simple.
What a breath of fresh air from a man who has "been there and done that".
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