[quote=lagster]I have heard Peter Croker's swing analysis by a G.S.E.D.. He says this is a SWING. His talk about PUSHING, is relating more to Extensor Action.
Dear Lagster,
In the swing analysis done by Paul Hart (G.S.E.D.)I give my "preferred motion."
However for someone starting out into learning to swing a golf club, a shorter "Hitting" motion has less moving parts.
To me it is an evolution. The more skilled you become, the more relaxed you can make your muscles and the more the centrifugal force can take effect.
Alignments are first and then power follows. That is my take on it at this point in time.
If there is one thing that distinguishes the CGS, for me it is the possibility of eliminating the hip slide in the transition and the coordination requirements that tax the skills of the "average amateur." If I understand your setup correctly, the impact spine tilt is preset at address and the move forward is more "rotational." A key to all of this is understanding how you define the pivot??
Exactly, the jumping around with swings is only impeding my improvement. Im going to get the 7th edt. before I see Lynn or Brian only because I feel like after studying multiple swings theories I could probably figure out a lot of the so called technical stuff after multiple readings.
Plus if Im going to hang out on this site I need to know the language, so to speak.
Thanks again for your input,youve been helpful....
If there is one thing that distinguishes the CGS, for me it is the possibility of eliminating the hip slide in the transition and the coordination requirements that tax the skills of the "average amateur." If I understand your setup correctly, the impact spine tilt is preset at address and the move forward is more "rotational." A key to all of this is understanding how you define the pivot??
DRW
Dear Doc,
You are spot on here! Hip slide is not necessary in any large degree when you preset and pivot as we recommend. There is much less chance of back and hip stress too!
Our Pivot Precision video download nails it best!
When the set up has the axis tilt in such an alignment to have the left side (from the hip down) in a vertical condition(our doorway drill for the stance and to help monitor the backswing pivot of the hips) - the hip rotation in the backswing has the right hip turning through the right heel and back in towards the left heel(Ben Hogan did this well). The right knee remains flexed and there is a spring loading of the base from the hips down.
With this coiling action, the left knee motion in the backswing is out in the direction of the left toes. This stops drifting towards the back foot.
This helps the spine tilt remain unchanged through the backswing and at transition, the left hip clears easily and rotates fully and attempts to unwind through the straightening left leg and back into the right foot (similar to a baseball player hitting a home run. At impact they are clearly hitting off and away from their rear foot.)
The releasing hands, arms and club act as a counter balance and the net result is some forward motion of the hips in most cases, but as we say "Shift happens!"
Words are not as good a svideo or "hands on" for understanding precisely what we mean, but this is my best shot at describing in words what the Pivot of the hips does and how to minimize hip slide and therefore the need for a higher skill level and timing.
I appreciate the interest in our TGM Pattern and I am keen to have a personal session with Lynne to share of 24 Component Definitions with "hands on" so that the best understandings can happen.
I know you asked birdie_man but i thought i'd reply as i was taught for about a year by a professional who was taught by Ledley King and graduated from his golf school in Knightsbridge.
IMO he has some interesting ideas but as an overall package it didn't help me, in fact to be honest it destroyed me. I found starting down with the hands particulary hard to implement and also the 'on-line' follow through i was taught didn't seem that compatable with an on-plane downswing.
I must stress though my experience shouldn't be taken as a reflection on Ledley King just how his method was taught to me.
interesting, so have you found more consistency starting down with your hips instead of your hands? I know the hips starting the DS tends to be the tradtional method, but didnt Homer like a hands lead pivot?
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