Green's got a nice swing, but he doesnt seem to be pulling down with his left arm. In fact in his video he he feels that a pulling action leads to having to make a last second flip of the hands to square it up.
He does seem to incorporate the 3 TGM imperatives in his motion...
ColtsFan, Homer wants you to monitor your hands but for a swinger like me they are pulled down by your body, the bump of the hips allows them to be pulled down on plane.
For me starting with the hands made my downswing very quick, i would loose my lag pressure too early and suffer from snap hooks.
Ya....you try to direct your hands to a spot...(at or ahead of the ball or wherever you're aiming your thrust...this is Aiming Point).....but what ACTUALLY moves them is your body.
Watch Hogan.....mad hip slide.....(without his head moving forward too much- this is how Axis Tilt [spine tilt] happens BTW).....watch his left knee....move towards the target.
Mind in the hands tho (where you are directing them)....but the body does the actual moving of them.
Last edited by birdie_man : 08-23-2006 at 05:06 PM.
That's a pretty cool site anyway....lots of pics and swing stuff....(if you click on the lessons at the bottom of the page)
I skimmed through it....and a lot of seems to be pretty good.....the setup stuff seemed to be good (from what I got out of it from very quickly skimming)....
But then I got to lesson 6...
"The clubface MUST not roll open in the backswing."
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Seems to be method teaching...
I mean....this would work for Palmer, Trevino, Lema, Irwin, Funk, Duval, etc...(anyone with that kind of clubface control)
But not for Hogan, Mickelson, Jones, blah blah blah etc. etc.
Personally, that guy wouldn't be a good fit for me...(I use Standard Wrist Action....i.e. with a swivel in the takeaway and right before the Release)...
Last edited by birdie_man : 08-23-2006 at 05:18 PM.
Green's got a nice swing, but he doesnt seem to be pulling down with his left arm. In fact in his video he he feels that a pulling action leads to having to make a last second flip of the hands to square it up.
He does seem to incorporate the 3 TGM imperatives in his motion...
What people FEEL may not be what is happening. With SWINGING there is a PULL, but often this is a RESULT of doing other things properly. A proper on plane right shoulder motion, for example, can set up the gyroscopic motion of a SWINGER, which has a PULLLING going on.
With HITTING, the hands usually stop at the TOP, AND OFTEN APPEAR TO NEARLY PAUSE before the start down. Of course, some HITTERS APPEAR very much like swingers, with very subtle things going on that make their pattern be classified a HIT, rather tha a SWING.
REMEMBER the story I had told to me... Is the horse PULLING the wagon, or PUSHING against the collar? You would have to ask the horse.
good stuff guys, all of you...I gotta tell you guys last night I think I had a TGM Ephifany that will probably make this Leslie King stuf a moot point. I feel feel like shelving all the books and print out I have (King, E Jones, B Jones, Hogans 5 Lessons, Bertholy SC101, Armour, Flick, et al)
and track down a 7th Edition YB and Brians flipper video. I cant lose what I found last night or be pretty bummed
What I did over 3 holes was just take that reverse K (TGM impact fix?) set up position with an 8 iron, took a nice full turn, came back down with my rt. shoulder tracing, as close as I could, down the target line. From there I just tried to mimmick as much as I could those photos of imapact postions in Lynn's gallery, I think its "Chamions at Impact"(head back, flat to slightly bowed left wrist, shoulders square hips open)
What happened was incredible, Ive never hit irons that crisp, with that kind of unbelievable trajectory in my life. All with a pretty swing. Im sold guys...Where is the best place to get a 7th edition or would a 6th edt. be ok for newbie?
Thanks for your input on King, Green and Croker...
good stuff guys, all of you...I gotta tell you guys last night I think I had a TGM Ephifany that will probably make this Leslie King stuf a moot point. I feel feel like shelving all the books and print out I have (King, E Jones, B Jones, Hogans 5 Lessons, Bertholy SC101, Armour, Flick, et al)
and track down a 7th Edition YB and Brians flipper video. I cant lose what I found last night or be pretty bummed
What I did over 3 holes was just take that reverse K (TGM impact fix?) set up position with an 8 iron, took a nice full turn, came back down with my rt. shoulder tracing, as close as I could, down the target line. From there I just tried to mimmick as much as I could those photos of imapact postions in Lynn's gallery, I think its "Chamions at Impact"(head back, flat to slightly bowed left wrist, shoulders square hips open)
What happened was incredible, Ive never hit irons that crisp, with that kind of unbelievable trajectory in my life. All with a pretty swing. Im sold guys...Where is the best place to get a 7th edition or would a 6th edt. be ok for newbie?
Thanks for your input on King, Green and Croker...
Great man.
Those sound, to me, like a couple good keys you have there....Impact oriented...
All I can say is if you have a decent stroke....build upon it rather than trying to find "another one"....
This even is in TGM....(along with a lot of advice like this)....but even then it's tough to do all these things right (I mean learn a swing) when there's SO many things to pay attention to.
Dunno....just wanted to advize of that....cause there's a lot of info there to "get lost in" (at least for a while...you'd get thru it eventually....esp. with an AI)....
-setup (always go back to this...as much precision and understanding as possible)
-trained pivot
-educated hands
-3 Imparatives (how do YOU repeat them best?)
All with a pretty swing. Im sold guys...Where is the best place to get a 7th edition or would a 6th edt. be ok for newbie?
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