I was hitting 56 degree sand wedge shots about 80 yards earlier today. I just finished trying Deleware Golf's recommended procedure after reviewing his posts, the Evershed book and Tomasello video. I was was able to hit the same club 90 - 95 yards with better accuracy. A few keys from the Evershed video seemed to help. They are: (1) The left arm is inert; (2) Swing the right arm back, up and in, instantly and simultaneously (i.e., "on-plane", while (3) trying to keep the right arm straight (extensor action); (4) maintain the bent right wrist on the down swing while (5) executing a gentle "top spin forehand" motion and (6) allowing the right arm to swing forward, up and in to the Finish.
Trying this with a stiff left arm instead of an inert left arm is a loser. I also tried to just swing the "whole right arm" instead of thinking only of right tricep power and that seemed to work effectively.
I'm a believer, for I have been to the mountain top.
I've been working on this off/on for the last 4 months and it has finally clicked. I'm hitting the ball pure, long and without effort. All right forearm without any thought on pivoting or my body.
Here's a question:
Is Evershed's pattern different from Tomasello's??? How???
(They just emphasize different things, but the stroke is the same)...Mark just doesn't talk about uncocking the right elbow from the top like Tommy does...the elbow action is a natural move
DG
It seems like when I use Evershed's focal point (the bent right hand)my pattern is different from Tomasello's, but this could be me misunderstanding what he teaches... Is the "vertical drop" simply the uncocking of the right elbow?
When I put "my brain into my right hand" I really do get the feeling of hitting a topspin forehand (switty but still good), and my flight is lower.
When I follow the pattern that Tomasello presents in his video letter/lesson my pattern feels whippish with a higher more darting flight.
I can play good golf with either pattern, but I prefer my -PERCEPTION- of the Tommy T pattern.
I agree that Evershed is a great instructor and he definitely gives his student "knowledge." I understand why he was awarded teacher of the year.
Evershed: N/A porsche 911
Tomasello: Twin Turbo Porsche Carrera
Last edited by ChangeMySwing : 09-19-2006 at 08:55 PM.
I don't agree with you on the Mark Evershed topspin (he is not doing anything different than Tomasello during impact)...what you're calling topspin is impact swivel or what Hogan called supination..
By topspin, I mean that the swing feels similar to a tennis stroke, and not that it is faulty in anyway. It just feels different when I change my focus from my forearm to my right hand. I feel more lag pressure focusing on my right hand, but more speed and 'whippyness' when focusing on the right forearm...
I don't agree with you on the Mark Evershed topspin (he is not doing anything different than Tomasello during impact)...what you're calling topspin is impact swivel or what Hogan called supination...it's what turns a 5 iron into a 4 iron...Evershed hit's down on the ball like Tomasello...both are proceducing high penerating shots. Equal and opposite reaction...
In my 3-day school we worked on something similiar to the vertical drop...Tomasello called it swinging without power. He just wanted you to get the feel of the right forearm starting the downswing...having the right arm drop while the right elbow uncocked. very little driving action and speed...while at the same time getting a feel for what the pivot was doing. More distance...just increase the speed of the whole procedure...as Tommy would say...Wip It and Zip It. Or better yet, just Karate chop it with the right forearm...Study tape #2 of the Deitrick Letter series...
DG
DG - would you agree that Evershed is basically focused on a 'true' horizontal hinge motion? (his CCC) I like his visual of it from overhead, very much the 'feel' IMO to what a split grip drill shows, and IMO one of the areas Ballard was really getting at (even though I don't think he described it well).
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DG - would you agree that Evershed is basically focused on a 'true' horizontal hinge motion? (his CCC) I like his visual of it from overhead, very much the 'feel' IMO to what a split grip drill shows, and IMO one of the areas Ballard was really getting at (even though I don't think he described it well).
EdZ and DG. I don't mean to butt in on your exchange but I want to add my observations. I have some of Evershed's stuff and what I think he is trying to impart, besides the 3 imperatives, is...
1-Delivery Line-Prep-Roll
2-Horizontal Hinge
3-FINISH SWIVEL
Evershed is always talking about keeping the hands moving left with a flat left and bent right wrist. A flowing motion. EdZ, are the three points I mentioned above your "true horizontal hinge motion"?
DG,is Tomasellos pattern actually a 4 barrel stroke variation?
True horizontal hinge as distinguished from swivel as hinge action. I don't really see much emphasis on your points 1 and 3 in the material I have seen - mostly the focus is bent right/flat left. Clearly he is familiar with the machine, and acknowledges Homer and TT, so I'm not suggesting he ignores those important points at all. I like his 'six minute' guide. A good reference to TGM concepts.
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