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Old 10-05-2006, 08:23 AM
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It is all about execution. Focus on the execution during the swing, focus on the target before you swing.
This is one of the best things I have read in a long time.

It is the Fifth Programming Routine of Chapter 14 -- a complete shift from "Ball Action" to "You Action."

It is the non-emotional execution of your procedure.

It is the Mental Game in a nutshell.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for the video

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I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.

Until now, I thought that if did a "throw" from that point in the swing, then there would be less mass at impact to give the ball a beating. Is this thought irrelevant?

Also, I would like to mention that I've been using a instrument similar to the one Tom Tomasello is using in his videos to Ideit (the one where there is a lever at the bottom that is flung out). When I made swings with it before, the little lever at the bottom fly out, feel like it stayed in that position for an instant too long, and then rotate back in. Now, with that left-arm or left-hand throw, that bottom lever flies out and then snaps right back in one continuous motion. Do you think that is what should be happening?

One last thing, exactly what is the "throwing" feeling like for you? Does it start at release? Does it feel like you are throwing with mainly your left hand? Or does it feel like you are throwing the clubhead?

Thanks again for the information. How amazing it is to log on to the forum late at night and be told that a set of LBG forum videos are on their way (and to go get my popcorn)!
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by noproblemos
Thanks for the video

Yoda,
I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.

Until now, I thought that if did a "throw" from that point in the swing, then there would be less mass at impact to give the ball a beating. Is this thought irrelevant?

Also, I would like to mention that I've been using a instrument similar to the one Tom Tomasello is using in his videos to Ideit (the one where there is a lever at the bottom that is flung out). When I made swings with it before, the little lever at the bottom fly out, feel like it stayed in that position for an instant too long, and then rotate back in. Now, with that left-arm or left-hand throw, that bottom lever flies out and then snaps right back in one continuous motion. Do you think that is what should be happening?

One last thing, exactly what is the "throwing" feeling like for you? Does it start at release? Does it feel like you are throwing with mainly your left hand? Or does it feel like you are throwing the clubhead?

Thanks again for the information. How amazing it is to log on to the forum late at night and be told that a set of LBG forum videos are on their way (and to go get my popcorn)!
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There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0

This is very different than THROW-AWAY.

The Throw... triggers the Release.
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Old 10-05-2006, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0

This is very different than THROW-AWAY.

The Throw... triggers the Release.
So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?

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Old 10-05-2006, 10:01 PM
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Excellent - thank you
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Old 10-06-2006, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by noproblemos

So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?
The Left Wrist Throw (10-20-E) is what you see in the video. It is preceded by the Shoulder Turn Throw (10-20-C) that "blasts" the Left Arm off the chest. In an Automatic Snap Release, the Delivery Path Throw (10-20-D) produces the Wrist Throw.
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Old 10-06-2006, 01:22 AM
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I have to say that these videos opened my eyes to a misconception that I hand about horizontal hinging. We all know that HH has a full roll feel. Well, after mimmicking what I saw on the video, I realized that HH, for me, felt like no roll at all. Then I remembered why; the left wrist stays vertical to it's associated plane. My full roll feel was actually overrolling. Remember, Will, the Hinge pin is in the shoulder, not the wrist .

Keep those videos comin'. The visuals and associated explanations have really made learning TGM PROPERLY a lot easier. Not a replacement for a competent AI, but extremely helpful in lieu of.
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Old 10-06-2006, 11:26 AM
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Is this the wrong place to ask this question?:

What is the difference between non-automatic vs automatic release? Is non-automatic just to make it more of a sweep release?

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Old 10-05-2006, 10:59 AM
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The Throws -- Release Triggers
Originally Posted by noproblemos

Yoda,

I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.

Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.
Thanks for your comments on our video, noproblemos. We appreciate them!

I am sure there are many references to the various "Throws" in my posts. Search the Archives for the Release Triggers (10-20). That is what the Throws are -- the five Release Triggers.
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Old 10-05-2006, 11:30 AM
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Jeff clearly shows how the club head swivels against the plane on the back swing. A lot of motion in that right forearm/elbow. This one alignment seems key to letting the throw/left arm karate chop to do their powerful work. Thanks.
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