Yoda,
I don't remember there being talk of any "throw" on this forum before.
Golfgnome bringing it up in the video, and both of you discussing it, has brought up some information that I wouldn't have believed unless it was someone like you discussing it.
Until now, I thought that if did a "throw" from that point in the swing, then there would be less mass at impact to give the ball a beating. Is this thought irrelevant?
Also, I would like to mention that I've been using a instrument similar to the one Tom Tomasello is using in his videos to Ideit (the one where there is a lever at the bottom that is flung out). When I made swings with it before, the little lever at the bottom fly out, feel like it stayed in that position for an instant too long, and then rotate back in. Now, with that left-arm or left-hand throw, that bottom lever flies out and then snaps right back in one continuous motion. Do you think that is what should be happening?
One last thing, exactly what is the "throwing" feeling like for you? Does it start at release? Does it feel like you are throwing with mainly your left hand? Or does it feel like you are throwing the clubhead?
Thanks again for the information. How amazing it is to log on to the forum late at night and be told that a set of LBG forum videos are on their way (and to go get my popcorn)!
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There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0
There should be plenty of information on THROWS on here. There are actually several kinds. Left Wrist Throw, Right Arm Throw, Right Shoulder Throw...and others. Chapter 10-20-0
This is very different than THROW-AWAY.
The Throw... triggers the Release.
So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?
So the "THROW" they're talking about in this video, is it the "wrist throw"?
The Left Wrist Throw (10-20-E) is what you see in the video. It is preceded by the Shoulder Turn Throw (10-20-C) that "blasts" the Left Arm off the chest. In an Automatic Snap Release, the Delivery Path Throw (10-20-D) produces the Wrist Throw.
I have to say that these videos opened my eyes to a misconception that I hand about horizontal hinging. We all know that HH has a full roll feel. Well, after mimmicking what I saw on the video, I realized that HH, for me, felt like no roll at all. Then I remembered why; the left wrist stays vertical to it's associated plane. My full roll feel was actually overrolling. Remember, Will, the Hinge pin is in the shoulder, not the wrist .
Keep those videos comin'. The visuals and associated explanations have really made learning TGM PROPERLY a lot easier. Not a replacement for a competent AI, but extremely helpful in lieu of.
Gotta say, The Jeff Hull Video Series has become one of my all time favorites. I would estimate that I have spent at least 8 hours of watching them, be it in total or parts. They be GREAT!!!!
Some questions or points of clarifications (Sorry no particular order, just as they rolled out of the incubator)
1. In the third segment, about 70 seconds into it, Lynn begins to discuss the Acquired Motion, but I think it is just a mis-statement, he said "before in the Acquired Motion" (I think this should be Basic Motion) that it was either left arm pull or right arm push.... Not a biggie, I just want to make sure I didn't turn left when everyone else turned right. It should have been Basic Motion?
2. Jeff your waggle at address, on the Total Motion it appears that it is with the club above the ball at start whereas for the Basic and Acquire, the club head appeared to be at ground level. Is this normal, if so what is the reason or was this because of this being a demonstration?
3. What starts your waggle? Does the Tempo of your waggle relate to the shot at hand?
4. Jeff do you have a plane shift? I ask because in the first segment, you take a practice motion and then on your actual stroke it appears that you go to the spot, shoulder height, then up a bit to the top/end? Something on the order of single shift or maybe a double shift.
5. On Basic Motion, some of the shots appear as if the bending of the right wrist is increase at either the end of the back stroke or at the beginning of the down stroke. Is this something you try to do or is this, for the lack of a better words, some form of loading/setting to max out the distance on Basic Motion?
By the way, your shot looking at the camera while hitting was really impressive.
Thanks again for you time and effort in providing this great video series.
In the third segment, about 70 seconds into it, Lynn begins to discuss the Acquired Motion, but I think it is just a mis-statement, he say before in the Acquired Motion (I think this should be Basic Motion) that it was either left arm pull or right arm push.... Not a biggie, I just want to make sure I didn't turn left when everyone else turned right. It should have been Basic Motion?
Yes, Martee, the same thing jumped out at me. As we moved into the Acquired Motion segment, I briefly summarized the immediately preceding Basic Motion and mistakenly said "Acquired" instead of "Basic." Oh well, the joys of the 'live' presentation! Fortunately, I later made a similar reference and got it right.
For the record, the Basic Motion (Stage One) is all about the Basic Body Positions, the Power Package alignments and the Arm Accumulators. The Acquired Motion (Stage Two) introduces Body Motion and the Hand Action Accumulators. The Total Motion (Stage Three) moves toward unrestricted motion, but still at less than full Power until alignments are perfected.
Stage Three is done first with the Middle Irons and then repeated with the Long Irons and Woods. Consequently, as Homer Kelley described it to me, there are actually five Stages in the Basic Motion Curriculum, not three.