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Old 10-27-2006, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by noproblemos
This contradicts what has been posted by the Doctors on these TGM-related forums over the last 4 years.

This is what Lynn taught us a Pine Needles... it swivels the shaft perfectly onto the same plane as the sweetspot for the finish onto the face of the inlcined plane

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Old 10-27-2006, 09:38 PM
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Hi Annikan,
I'm referring to the statement that MikeO made about the right wrist flattening from impact to both arms straight.

Doesn't the trailing wrist stay bent until followthrough? Hasn't that been taught in these forums?

But it DOES seem that a lot of Tour players' flatten their trailing wrist after impact and before followthrough (unless they're trying for a fade).



Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
This is what Lynn taught us a Pine Needles...it wasn't until after Woodmont that I noticed posts saying the left wrist is still flat in the finish swivel...Personally I agree with the former for it swivels the shaft perfectly onto the same plane as the sweetspot for the finish while the latter over -rotates the shaft off plane with the sweetspot and the golf clubface appears over rolled and looking to the ground instead of the face of the inlcined plane

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Old 10-28-2006, 08:20 AM
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Looking at a face on video of a tour player swing even in slow motion it is a 2 dimensional image so it appears to the eye that the right wrist at followthrough both arms straight is flat but in my opinion it is not. Thats not to say either that it is still fully bent through centrifugal forces it has moved towards a flat condition but not completely flatened out. It would be far more beneficial to have a camera positioned directly pointing at the player from an up-line camera angle to get a better image of this.
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Old 10-28-2006, 10:47 AM
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Follow-Through And Finish Swivel Alignments
Originally Posted by noproblemos

Doesn't the trailing wrist stay bent until followthrough? Hasn't that been taught in these forums?

But it DOES seem that a lot of Tour players' flatten their trailing wrist after impact and before followthrough (unless they're trying for a fade).
Check out my Acquired Motion sequence at http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery.../yoda_aquired/ .

In Row 7, Frames 20 and 21, the Left Wrist has remained Flat and the Right Wrist has remained Bent. The Clubshaft has continued to point at the Straight Plane Line. I have hit many thousands of short Chips and Pitches to acquire the alignments you see here. They most certainly were not 'natural' -- at least not for me.

The Sequence also demonstrates the correct Finish Swivel (beginning in Row 8 ). Here, both Wrists Swivel to their On Plane location for the Finish. The Left Wrist remains Flat as it Rolls palm-up to the Plane. In concert, the Right Wrist loses its Bend and becomes Flat as it Rolls palm-down to the Plane. Note that the butt-end of the Clubshaft continues to point at the Plane Line.

This Finish Swivel is not exaggerated, i.e., the Flat Left Wrist Swivels to the Inclined Plane, not to the Horizontal Plane. Accordingly, the Clubface is also On Plane and not Swiveled Face Down to the Ground. However, for Steering Addicts -- and that includes virtually all higher handicap players and many lower ones as well -- even this On Plane Swivel will Feel quite exaggerated. Most players simply have no idea how much Left Forearm Rotation is required to execute the correct Swivel.

As the Left Wrist re-Cocks into the Finish -- best viewed from down-the-line -- the Wrist will appear to Bend somewhat. However, this is the consequence of the natural perpendicular 'hammering motion' of the Wrist that maintains the Left Arm and Clubshaft In-Line. It is not the Horizontal Motion of a true Wrist Bend that throws the Clubshaft ahead of the Left Arm and destroys Rhythm.
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Old 10-28-2006, 09:28 PM
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Check out my Acquired Motion sequence at http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery.../yoda_aquired/ .

In Row 7, Frames 20 and 21, the Left Wrist has remained Flat and the Right Wrist has remained Bent. The Clubshaft has continued to point at the Straight Plane Line. I have hit many thousands of short Chips and Pitches to acquire the alignments you see here. They most certainly were not 'natural' -- at least not for me.

The Sequence also demonstrates the correct Finish Swivel (beginning in Row 8 ). Here, both Wrists Swivel to their On Plane location for the Finish. The Left Wrist remains Flat as it Rolls palm-up to the Plane. In concert, the Right Wrist loses its Bend and becomes Flat as it Rolls palm-down to the Plane. Note that the butt-end of the Clubshaft continues to point at the Plane Line.

This Finish Swivel is not exaggerated, i.e., the Flat Left Wrist Swivels to the Inclined Plane, not to the Horizontal Plane. Accordingly, the Clubface is also On Plane and not Swiveled Face Down to the Ground. However, for Steering Addicts -- and that includes virtually all higher handicap players and many lower ones as well -- even this On Plane Swivel will Feel quite exaggerated. Most players simply have no idea how much Left Forearm Rotation is required to execute the correct Swivel.

As the Left Wrist re-Cocks into the Finish -- best viewed from down-the-line -- the Wrist will appear to Bend somewhat. However, this is the consequence of the natural perpendicular 'hammering motion' of the Wrist that maintains the Left Arm and Clubshaft In-Line. It is not the Horizontal Motion of a true Wrist Bend that throws the Clubshaft ahead of the Left Arm and destroys Rhythm.
I can hear it now . . . "Rich you doofus!!!

How do you take someone who doesn't have enough DOWN and get them to do DOWN AND Swivel too?
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