Thanks Mike, that clears up a lot of the confusion on this issue to me. I'm not a +2, so there are other things for me to worry about. I really appreciate your effort in writing and explaining this.
Homer said, "I see great hazards in 'between the shoulders' because it tilts your head. And, you can't tell whether you've swayed or tilted your head."
Homer said, "I see great hazards in 'between the shoulders' because it tilts your head. And, you can't tell whether you've swayed or tilted your head."
His words, not mine.
How can you not tell if you have swayed?
If I can't tell if I've swayed or moved my head, I must have ZERO body awareness. When I sway, I feel more pressure and stretching in my right hip.
I also think the statement "I see great hazards in keeping the head still, because people keep it too still which can lead to a reverse pivot" could be just as valid.
IOW there are extremes either way, the best procedure, in my mind is somewhere in the middle. If you can keep your head precisely centered and perform the 3 imperatives, do it. If you cannot, find something that allows you to perform them.
I don't want to fight, I just think there are 2 sides to every story.
If I can't tell if I've swayed or moved my head, I must have ZERO body awareness. When I sway, I feel more pressure and stretching in my right hip.
I also think the statement "I see great hazards in keeping the head still, because people keep it too still which can lead to a reverse pivot" could be just as valid.
IOW there are extremes either way, the best procedure, in my mind is somewhere in the middle. If you can keep your head precisely centered and perform the 3 imperatives, do it. If you cannot, find something that allows you to perform them.
I don't want to fight, I just think there are 2 sides to every story.
The pictures with Slide Hip Turn(10-14-B)... LOOK like what many would call a Reverse, but it must be useful, if done corrrectly. I think C. Montgomery probably uses this, and very well.
Now... 10-14-D is actually called a Reverse Hip Turn. Do any of you employ this in short shots?
A pivot is an act of turning around a point and reverse means going in the opposite direction.
The shoulders nor the hips should be turning around in an anticlockwise(right handed) direction on the backstroke....
Ok well what about the slide in the hip action going in the reverse direction - hence reverse hip action ...nope...
According to most sources - its a slide coupled with a head moving forwards....
Sliding - well thats going in the direction you should be going anyways - just going too far.... that can't be 'reversing'
Ok so what is the next point you could possibly make - the pivot point reverses forward in its direction ... but that makes me confused - how would then concentrating on a stationary head make you 'reverse pivot'... Think about it...
If I can't tell if I've swayed or moved my head, I must have ZERO body awareness. When I sway, I feel more pressure and stretching in my right hip.
I also think the statement "I see great hazards in keeping the head still, because people keep it too still which can lead to a reverse pivot" could be just as valid.
IOW there are extremes either way, the best procedure, in my mind is somewhere in the middle. If you can keep your head precisely centered and perform the 3 imperatives, do it. If you cannot, find something that allows you to perform them.
I don't want to fight, I just think there are 2 sides to every story.
And, to whom may we attribute this quote, in red?
Here's another quote without anonymity. This is from Homer himself: "I think holding the head still has tremendous advantage."
I don't want to fight either, but there are two sides: Homer's and someone else's.
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