compda, could you share a couple of sudden acceleration of the club exercices using this resistance? Why do i get the feel you might tie a band to the cieling?
Jerome,
No, I have never tied the band to the ceiling.
Research has shown that the body only contributes 10% of power to the golf swing, whereas the speed of the hands and their actions contribute 90% of power.
Further “transferring” your weight from the back foot to the front foot creates only 2mph of body speed – which only increases clubhead speed if your timing is inch perfect.
In exercising for golf my focus is always on the forearms. This practice was further given endorsement by no less than the 2005 REMAX Long Drive Champ, Sean Fister, when he came to visit in September.
His words to me were: "I don't train anything above the elbow joint. Jack Nicklaus said that I have the fastest hand speed of anyone he has ever seen."
Look at the following attached.
This is a very clear view of the anatomy of the forearm. The most important muscles I feel are those that help cock and uncock the wrists and those that help pronate and supinate.
Work on those
I did these exercises plus master the Snap Release10-24-E only in April of this year and the results have been very very satisfactory.
Research has shown that the body only contributes 10% of power to the golf swing, whereas the speed of the hands and their actions contribute 90% of power.
Further “transferring” your weight from the back foot to the front foot creates only 2mph of body speed – which only increases clubhead speed if your timing is inch perfect.
In exercising for golf my focus is always on the forearms. This practice was further given endorsement by no less than the 2005 REMAX Long Drive Champ, Sean Fister, when he came to visit in September.
His words to me were: "I don't train anything above the elbow joint. Jack Nicklaus said that I have the fastest hand speed of anyone he has ever seen."
Look at the following attached.
This is a very clear view of the anatomy of the forearm. The most important muscles I feel are those that help cock and uncock the wrists and those that help pronate and supinate.
Work on those
I did these exercises plus master the Snap Release10-24-E only in April of this year and the results have been very very satisfactory.
Indeed the muscles you pointed out would cock and uncock the wrists and pronate and supinate. Although muscles of the upper arm would also help in pronation and supination of the forearm- so if you were trying to strengthen those- then you would want to also strengthen the upper arm muscles. However, none of the muscles that you described would move the hands faster through space. So to me, Sean's quote is just another quote that doesn't make any sense or is very unclear.
Indeed the muscles you pointed out would cock and uncock the wrists and pronate and supinate. Although muscles of the upper arm would also help in pronation and supination of the forearm- so if you were trying to strengthen those- then you would want to also strengthen the upper arm muscles. However, none of the muscles that you described would move the hands faster through space. So to me, Sean's quote is just another quote that doesn't make any sense or is very unclear.
Sorry Mike,
When he related Jack Nicklaus' compliment, he was uncocking and rolling his hands - very quickly.
To him , handspeed was the sequenced release of the swinger - uncock and roll.
That said, I agree with you on the role of the upper arm but I still do not completely understand its role in producing clubheadspeed thus have not began isolating them in training yet. I will be most keen to share once I reach a conclusion.
One thing that stuck in my mind about Sean was the size of his Extensor carpi radialis longus and his Pronator teres. They resembled sausages.
When he related Jack Nicklaus' compliment, he was uncocking and rolling his hands - very quickly.
To him , handspeed was the sequenced release of the swinger - uncock and roll.
That said, I agree with you on the role of the upper arm but I still do not completely understand its role in producing clubheadspeed thus have not began isolating them in training yet. I will be most keen to share once I reach a conclusion.
One thing that stuck in my mind about Sean was the size of his Extensor carpi radialis longus and his Pronator teres. They resembled sausages.
There is a rhythm to centrifugal force- trying to make it go faster really isn't a viable option. Training "just" the muscles below the elbow- doesn't make any sense at all. Finally, could you identify the research that says the body only provides 10% and also that the transferring of the weight only 2% because both of those "facts" are much like training the muscles just below the elbow- they don't take into account the entire context of the movement. Anotherwords- if I didn't transfer my weight and hit off my back foot- I really wouldn't lose any power?
There is a rhythm to centrifugal force- trying to make it go faster really isn't a viable option. Training "just" the muscles below the elbow- doesn't make any sense at all. Finally, could you identify the research that says the body only provides 10% and also that the transferring of the weight only 2% because both of those "facts" are much like training the muscles just below the elbow- they don't take into account the entire context of the movement. Anotherwords- if I didn't transfer my weight and hit off my back foot- I really wouldn't lose any power?
Sure thing Mike...check your email.
As mentioned, I don't fully comprehend all there is about speed generation.
So far what I have been doing is working very nicely for me. Hope you can link and sort everything out for me in reference to TGM.
Sure thing Mike...check your email.
As mentioned, I don't fully comprehend all there is about speed generation.
So far what I have been doing is working very nicely for me. Hope you can link and sort everything out for me in reference to TGM.
I reference my own post...
I have submitted the said research to my friend Mike O and Toolish for review.
With their permission, I will post their comments about it. I am not sure I can post the article sent to them because of intellectual property etc.
As mentioned to them, I stand ready to be corrected in the face of evidence disproving what I sent them. I am here to learn as much as the rest.
Though I may not have all the answers, one thing I know is that once I was short, now I am long doing "my" forearm exercises.
One theory that I proposed to Mike is a possible "spillover" effect of my forearm exercises to my upper arms and torso. Not so sure about that...I will post some pictures of the exercises soon.
Thanks to any that will chime in and offer more insights.
Research has shown that the body only contributes 10% of power to the golf swing, whereas the speed of the hands and their actions contribute 90% of power.
So, you could hit it 90% as far without moving the body? Surely not...try hitting balls without any shoulder turn and tell me how you go?
I agree the hands are important, but those numbers don't seem to make sense at all....can you point me to the data?
So, you could hit it 90% as far without moving the body? Surely not...try hitting balls without any shoulder turn and tell me how you go?
I agree the hands are important, but those numbers don't seem to make sense at all....can you point me to the data?
Or am I misinterpreting what you are saying?
Sure thing mate, please PM me your email and I will send you the materials.
I have already tried what you recommended a long time ago and my experience is as below - I would like for you to try what you said first and share the results, more importantly, you can prove or disprove this to YOURSELF, the person that matters most!
With a good strike, I can reach 85-90% of my regular distance with my feet together and/or standing on one leg (left or right)
I can hit a lob wedge about 65 yards with the right hand and 50 yards with the left hand.
When I last hit a driver on my knees some 13 months back, it went about 230 yards through the air - this is without a snap release and speed training. I am not too sure what I can achieve now.
Some months back I heard Mr Kelley quoted (Lynn and Mike O should be able to verify this) before that "you will be very surprised how far you can hit it with little shoulder turn".
Now mate, when you mention "try hitting balls without any shoulder turn", I just do not think it is possible to do a completely zero shoulder turn and yet get my hands high enough.
Being the scientist that I am, I went out to the range to prove Mr. Kelley wrong. In science, to prove a theory, you try to disprove it.
I lifted my arms up allowing some bend in the left arm while keeping my shoulders as square as possible - I got the same 85% to 90% distance when I got a good strike. Due to lack of practice, I was obviously not very consistent with such a move.
For the record, I do not believe that a "90 degree turn of the shoulders" is needful for distance and I don't use it in my procedure. Its not a flexibility issue too - I can do full splits with ease.
The shoulder turn to me is about plane issues. If you have a flat plane angle, you need more turn to get the right shoulder on plane. Vice versa for a steep plane angle. Please reference 10-13-0.
I have also tested myself doing John Daly-esque swings and yes, I do hit my driver further about 8-13 yards, but at the cost of improper contact, wayward direction and back pain.
Food for thought...how far do you think Bruce Lee would hit his driver if he were a 7 marker?
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