This video seems to illustrate very well the complications of moving the head:
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
It shows the head move...doesn't prove anything really tho.
He did have more head movement back then too. (and he did do OK)
Yeah, I answer to M-dog. Watching this clip is disorientating, and I think it illustrates the amount of compensation necessary by the motor system in order to strike solid golf shots with head movement. Yeah, I'm sure he hit it extremely well. The question is whether the average player is giving up consistency by moving the head. For me personally, this clip is enough for me to try and keep my head as still as possible and feel that I have eliminated one element from my swing that can go wrong.
Certainly for another person this clip will not mean the same as it does to me, I think that's perfectly reasonable. That's the beauty of golf, with a lot of study and work we can design a golf swing that we feel makes sense and hopefully produces excellent results, head movement or not.
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
He DID have quite a bit of head movement back then and I'd say his Pivot these days is better...
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This video does not give you a true representation of what the Tiger SEES tho.
You have to remember that Tiger's eyes move in the sockets throughout....and they will stay glued on the ball in the Backstroke...
The camera on the other hand only represents how the head moves. The camera basically shows what it would be like if his eyes could only look STRAIGHT out of the face. (so you'd look to the right of the ball as the head sways AND swivels in the Backstroke)
I hope you understand what I'm trying to get across.
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Try a Pivot like Tiger's and tell me if it's as disorienting as the video might make it seem.
Last edited by birdie_man : 12-11-2006 at 07:48 PM.
This video does not give you a true representation of what the Tiger SEES tho.
You have to remember that Tiger's eyes move in the sockets throughout....and they will stay glued on the ball in the Backstroke...
The camera on the other hand only represents how the head moves.
You are absolutely right, a complete misunderstanding of what was occurring on my part. Thank you.
Matt
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
He DID have quite a bit of head movement back then and I'd say his Pivot these days is better...
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This video does not give you a true representation of what the Tiger SEES tho.
You have to remember that Tiger's eyes move in the sockets throughout....and they will stay glued on the ball in the Backstroke...
The camera on the other hand only represents how the head moves. The camera basically shows what it would be like if his eyes could only look STRAIGHT out of the face. (so you'd look to the right of the ball as the head sways AND swivels in the Backstroke)
I hope you understand what I'm trying to get across.
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Try a Pivot like Tiger's and tell me if it's as disorienting as the video might make it seem.
Excellent point birdieman...well done!
This makes me think of my own swing that I have been working on more with video...some distressing compensations in my swing that I need to work on...one is head movement on my backswing...I move my head up but it might be due to my head/chin being too close to my body and in the way when my left shoulder attempts to complete a shoulder turn...in order to continue turning my whole body and head raise a bit as I complete the back turn...I am going to work on a preturned head and my chin raised up to accomodate my shoulder turn...my eyes can still be looking down and to the left.
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