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Old 06-06-2007, 08:35 PM
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1. Tell them you are going to show the first 60 seconds of the Snead/Toski video. Give background.

2. As Yoda did with us – invite them to bring not only their ears to bear on this video, but also their eyes and (trained) intellect.

3. Show the video.

4. Impress upon them ‘How important is it to learn that the #1 Swing Thought of the greatest Golf Mind of all time -- Homer Kelley -- has just been validated by one of the greatest Golf Performers of all time -- Sam Snead’

5. Introduce Geometry of the Circle, Basic Motion, Right Forearm Tracing or whatever you consider most appropriate at this point.

6. Question Time.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:22 PM
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Thanks for the sage advice Burner. One of my favorite quotes came from the Italian Astronomer and Physicist Galileo: "You can't teach a man anything, you can only help him discover it within himself." I'll give it my best shot.

Strav, Homer and Sam would make a great combination. I will have to watch the video again. Sam's actions speak volumes and shows TGM in action. Snead just didn't know it at the time, or did he? A great way to validate.
Leaving time for questions is a must. I hope there are many. I am sure that the conversation will "spill over" into the 19th Hole. At least I hope so .
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Old 06-07-2007, 03:13 AM
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Drew, maybe someone can video tape it so it can get graded on another website.
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:48 AM
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Show how the circular motion can be made to trace a straight line-use a bench?
It would be great if you could get Yodas hinge gizmo from the trunk of his car!.
Actually isn't there a video of it somewhere?
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:36 AM
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Encourage the learning process to begin. Give them the correct motivation to begin study - that is, explain that The Golfing Machine is not some "latest method."
It is an explanation of how and why golfers have repeatable success and why they do not have success. Give them reason to get the book and continue to study the book. Real learning in a short period of time - at minimum a tough task. Show them real life examples of how the best players in the world all execute the imperatives and essetials. Show them how poor players don't.

Mention the standardized terminology the book offers to explain almost infinite variations that can be see even amoung the best players in the world. (I'd think this would be welcome news).

I'd hope that you would indeed state that The Golfing Machine is complex and that the learing curve is steep. I'd want to think that a person labeled as "professional" would embrace complexity for more (correct) understanding.

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Old 06-07-2007, 11:05 AM
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That dude Homer Kelley said that the Right Forearm Angle of Approach was SIMPLER than the Triad????

That may not be a bad thang!!!
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:18 PM
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Neil, I actually use a piece of 2 foot PVC that is mount about 16 inches off the ground instead of a bench to demonstrate one of the few drills in the book (4-D-0) for Wrist and Hand Motion. It travels a little easier than a bench. While Mr. Kelley never like to give too much emphasis on any one aspect of the motion (they are all important). I always find myself comming back to that section.

SEC, excellent accessment. I might change "complex" for "complete". Don't want to scare them off. Once hooked, they won't let go.

Bucket, there you go again, giving away the secret. If people understand that they might not need me anymore . Why don't you just give them a Yellow Treasure Map with a "Big X" on it (Not to be confused with x-classification in unlucky chapter 13).
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:26 PM
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I am nowhere near the level of expertise of those that responded to this interesting question, but I have spent considerable time pondering how to teach what I understand of TGM to youngsters. I noticed early on that a lot of good things come in threes!


(A). Three parts of a Golf Club

1. Clubshaft
2. Clubface
3. Clubhead

(B). Three Major Concepts of the Golf Swing
1. Inclined Plane – Clubshaft
2. Hinge Action – Clubface
3. Centrifugal Force – Clubhead

(C). Three Essentials for a Good Golf Swing

1. Steady Head
2. Balance
3. Rhythm

(D). Three Imperatives For a Good Golf Stroke

1. Flat Left Wrist at Impact
2. On Plane Club Shaft
3. Club Head Lag

(E). Three Dimensions of the Golf Stroke

1. Downward
2. Outward
3. Forward

(f) Three Universal Planes

1. Horizontal
2. Vertical
3. Inclined

(G) Three Geometric Shapes

1. Circle
2. Triangle
3. Rectangle (the inclined plane)

(h) The Greatest Triune

1. Father
2. Son
3. Holy Spirit


A threefold cord is not easily broken (Ecclesiastes 4:12)
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Keep it up!
Awesome post Okie!

Thanks,
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Old 06-07-2007, 04:33 PM
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I am nowhere near the level of expertise of those that responded to this interesting question, but I have spent considerable time pondering how to teach what I understand of TGM to youngsters. I noticed early on that a lot of good things come in threes!


(A). Three parts of a Golf Club

1. Clubshaft
2. Clubface
3. Clubhead

(B). Three Major Concepts of the Golf Swing
1. Inclined Plane – Clubshaft
2. Hinge Action – Clubface
3. Centrifugal Force – Clubhead

(C). Three Essentials for a Good Golf Swing

1. Steady Head
2. Balance
3. Rhythm

(D). Three Imperatives For a Good Golf Stroke

1. Flat Left Wrist at Impact
2. On Plane Club Shaft
3. Club Head Lag

(E). Three Dimensions of the Golf Stroke

1. Downward
2. Outward
3. Forward

(f) Three Universal Planes

1. Horizontal
2. Vertical
3. Inclined

(G) Three Geometric Shapes

1. Circle
2. Triangle
3. Rectangle (the inclined plane)

(h) The Greatest Triune

1. Father
2. Son
3. Holy Spirit


A threefold cord is not easily broken (Ecclesiastes 4:12)
Nowhere near the level of expertise of those that responded to this interesting question? You wouldn't know it by your post. You have obviously done your homework. Nice outline, all will be included, but I am not sure I can present (h) in the manner it deserves.
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