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Old 11-30-2007, 01:24 PM
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Do your clubs fit?

If it's not a clubface issue or a path issue, you don't have many other choices!!!



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Old 11-30-2007, 02:08 PM
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Clubs fit.

I've got a great looking set-up and backswing that you have seen.Flat left wrist at the top but something bad happens on the downswing.

If your hips slide towards the target would this change the path of your swing?

I have better luck when i play from an open stance but as soon as i get square the ball starts going right.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:25 PM
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:54 PM
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Pure Swinger?
If you are a Pure Swinger, i.e. one who lets centrifugal force square the club, you could hit pushes if the ball is too far back in the stance, especially with the driver. This kind of swinger has to find the exact ball position, usually near low point, to produce a straight away ball flight.

If not a Pure Swinger, it could be a grip that is too weak, or poor hinge action.
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Old 12-01-2007, 10:37 PM
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Yo . . .

So tell us more about the ball flight? Is it a straight push? Does it curve either way? High or Low? When you hit the "push" shot are you hitting it solid?

Holla back . . .
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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Bucket,

With this shot the ball goes dead right with good trajectory and fairly solid.I would guess that I do give up some yardage.

I have tried stonger grip and worked hard on clubface control along with ball position.

I really thought i'm swing too far right and have tried to come over the top.This used to work but like most band-aids they only stop the bleeding for so long.

Really kind of like Burner's answer as he might be up to something.

I've played good golf from an open stance and wonder if this slows the body down coming through the shot.

I'm getting to the point i'll try anything.
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:17 PM
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I really thought i'm swing too far right and have tried to come over the top.This used to work but like most band-aids they only stop the bleeding for so long.
Trace you Plane Line with your Right Forearm and #3PP. Both move On Plane Left from Low Point to Follow Through. Never ever, ever purposely try to come over the top: bad, bad, bad and Off Plane motion from the get-go. Remember, the Right Forearm must be on Plane with a Bent Right Elbow (established at Fix) at Impact. Feel the Hands move left after Impact; even more than they do now. LET THE MOTION MAKE THE SHOT (Forget about the stupid ball). Start the club from the Top or End Smoooooother, not quick and jerky.

Your comments seem to me to be a case of Steering (3-F-7-A) along with its side-kick Quitting (3-F-7-B). Hence, the reason you feel better playing from a Square-Open (10-5-B) Plane Line. It allows you to Swing left through Impact. Report back. Don't forget "LET THE MOTION MAKE THE SHOT".
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:58 PM
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3-F-5. The Address Routine
Are you using Square-Square? Or are you setting up Square-Closed? Aiming to the Right. The devil is in the details.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:44 AM
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Bucket,

With this shot the ball goes dead right with good trajectory and fairly solid.I would guess that I do give up some yardage.

I have tried stonger grip and worked hard on clubface control along with ball position.

I really thought i'm swing too far right and have tried to come over the top.This used to work but like most band-aids they only stop the bleeding for so long.

Really kind of like Burner's answer as he might be up to something.

I've played good golf from an open stance and wonder if this slows the body down coming through the shot.

I'm getting to the point i'll try anything.
Remember the name of this game is the Line of Compression (having a path and face that combine to make the ball go to the target). Sounds like you know that you are approaching the ball from the inside correct? I am assuming you are just hitting a straight push that doesn't curve? If so there isn't any "divergence" of the face and path . . . . so maybe you should monkey with your ball position. Could be that you are playing the ball to far back. Move it up and take some of the "swinging right" out. Or close the face a bit at address. Are you "hanging back and holding on"?

HennyBogan talks about the Right Rocket . . . it's a dead hammered push shot . . . HB is you with me? Holla?
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:23 AM
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Along drewitgolf's line of thinking, maintain #4 pressure point after impact and continue to turn through the ball, this will allow you to replane the club properly, aiding in clubface control. You can be drawing a straight plane line coming down, but if you swing through too steep you are likely to hit a push. Let me guess, you've battled the hooks before?
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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