To truly be a right arm swinger doesn't the right elbow move past the right hip before contact? Which presents another question - do we pull with the right side or the left side when swinging?
The above is open for debate....I have Tomasello on video teaching a student...and Tommy asks the student what are you going to start the club down with....the student's response.....the muscles of both forearms. When I studied with Tommy I believe it was all right forearm. I have 8 hours of my instruction with him on audio cassette....1/3 of the total time instruction time with Tommy. I believe the whipcracking reference that Tomasello mentioned might be the muscles of both forearms move to start the club down. I'm still listening to my tapes. On the Australia videos we have Tomasello teaching the two forearm startdown, but primarily with the right forearm. But Tommy always taught the uncocking of the right forearm from the top. I have references of that from 1987 through 1993.
The forearm answer is... you can use all three combinations for swinging (Watched Tommy's 1987 teaching video, he said you could use all three combinations, what a revelation). Left forearm only, Right Forearm only, or both. Reference Tommy's Chapter series #5 video on power...when Tommy talks about regulating power for the shot at hand. It's up to you the golfer to decide.
TT at setup: significant amount of axis tilt
I think Hogan didn't have this much (according to V.J. Trolio his COG was centered between his feet)
Was TT's visible setup tilt a result of his Height and body type? How tall was TT by the way?
thoughts?
TT at setup: significant amount of axis tilt
I think Hogan didn't have this much (according to V.J. Trolio his COG was centered between his feet)
Was TT's visible setup tilt a result of his Height and body type? How tall was TT by the way?
thoughts?
According to my instruction with Tommy and the video instruction of Tommy on this site, Tommy's tilt at setup is due to the right hand being lower than the left on the club handle. Lynn and Ted might disagree with this setup. Lynn/Ted??? any comments?
According to my instruction with Tommy and the video instruction of Tommy on this site, Tommy's tilt at setup is due to the right hand being lower than the left on the club handle. Lynn and Ted might disagree with this setup. Lynn/Ted??? any comments?
DG
I would say that the Right-hand being lower on the club and any bend in the Right Arm would cause the Right Shoulder to be lower, but it doesn't have to cause axis tilt. I was taught for years to have the excess axis tilt at Address, but with an uncentered Head. With that amount of axis tilt, I couldn't play dead in a western movie because I couldn't manage Low Point.
In my present Hitting pattern, I have axis tilt at Address because of my Impact Address. My Head is centered, but my Hips are forward. Thus, the axis tilt is derived from the lower part of the axis being forward and the Head being centered, instead of the top of the axis being tilted back and the Hips being centered.
"Thus, the axis tilt is derived from the lower part of the axis being forward and the Head being centered, instead of the top of the axis being tilted back and the Hips being centered."
That is a great distinction, Mr. Fort! Thank you for putting it that way. Setting up to a driver my chin used to be over the inside of my right foot. I had a pro physically move it there (apparently I was not getting my weight to my right side!) Curtis Strange had just won his second U.S. Open! Of course, the problem then became that my right arm was a foot too short! I seldom run out of right arm these days
To me TT's tilt at setup does not seem to be due only to the natural tilt that might occur from the grip (right hand naturally lower than left).
He adds alot.
In TT Ch. 1 "Pivot" video you can see this starting at 3:40 but more cleary at around 7:04 he says after getting what he calls the "three point set" completed to "tilt just a bit": and you can see this clearly as a choice he is making to hula just a bit toward the target (as Mr. Fort has said he does) so it's clearly moving toward or is at an impact address for him before he starts his backswing.
According to my instruction with Tommy and the video instruction of Tommy on this site, Tommy's tilt at setup is due to the right hand being lower than the left on the club handle. Lynn and Ted might disagree with this setup. Lynn/Ted??? any comments?
DG
I still believe my comments above are the truth on Tommy's tilt. Tommy's tilt at setup is in direct proportion to the right hand being lower than the left on the club handle. See the 1st video from the chapter series on the pivot for back up data. Let Tommy tell you himself. Yeeee Haaawww. Glad we have the videos.
I seldom run out of right arm these days
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