Executing the Sequenced Release
Emergency Room - Swingers
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02-03-2008, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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The Guy on the Top, has extra layback because his right elbow is hanging back. Too bad he doesn't swivel but uses his Pivot to Roll the Lever. Look at Frame #8. This guy is great. TVA Grip. Could Have been a perfect Horizontal Hinge.
The Guy on the Bottom is TTU. Strong Double Action Underhand Grip. He has the same right elbow alignment problem as the Top Guy. It's laying back the Clubface through impact. He's comming in over the Top. Look how High His Right Forearm is. If his clubhead arrives a split second early, he'll high-hook the hell out of it.
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Daryl,
Not singling you out - love your posts.
But - the guy above (Trevino) appears to me to be simultaneous release. Look at pic 8 - face is looking downplane (as a side not - which would necessitate angled hinging, or hook it off the planet), left wrist appears to be uncocking, right elbow opposes the shaft. Hitter all the way to me.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by 'Too bad he doesn't swivel but uses his Pivot to Roll the Lever.'?
Guy on bottom, to me, is a swinger. His elbow is deep pitch, and in the 5th shot, is leading the hands - to me a sign of 'pulling'.
Anyways, want to hear your elaboration of pivot roll versus swivel.
Thanks,
Patrick
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02-03-2008, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by phillygolf
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Daryl,
Not singling you out - love your posts.
But - the guy above (Trevino) appears to me to be simultaneous release. Look at pic 8 - face is looking downplane (as a side not - which would necessitate angled hinging, or hook it off the planet), left wrist appears to be uncocking, right elbow opposes the shaft. Hitter all the way to me.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by 'Too bad he doesn't swivel but uses his Pivot to Roll the Lever.'?
Guy on bottom, to me, is a swinger. His elbow is deep pitch, and in the 5th shot, is leading the hands - to me a sign of 'pulling'.
Anyways, want to hear your elaboration of pivot roll versus swivel.
Thanks,
Patrick
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I see what you see. Lee is Angle Hinging, I agree. But look at the Reverse Roll of his Right Hand before Impact. Classic Swinger. But his grip Rolls the Clubface so he doesn't need to Swivel. It's difficult to critique his swing and draw many conclusions. Swinger like, Hitter like. I don't know.
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02-03-2008, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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I see what you see. Lee is Angle Hinging, I agree. But look at the Reverse Roll of his Right Hand before Impact. Classic Swinger. But his grip Rolls the Clubface so he doesn't need to Swivel. It's difficult to critique his swing and draw many conclusions. Swinger like, Hitter like. I don't know.
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There are sooooooooo many lessons to learn about how it works from studying the idosyncrasies of Lee's swing . . .
There are soooo many conclusions you can draw and apply to what people do and should not do etc. etc.
You are looking at a golf swing that is based on extremes that works very well as far as hitting the ball solid every time and straight and low and with left to right spin and eliminate the left side of the golf course.
So the conclusions you should be able to draw . . .and let's see what you can come up with is . . .
1. What causes the ball to go low?
2. How did he eliminate the left side?
3. How did he hit HIS fade?
4. How did he manage to hit the ball solid almost everytime?
Uses your eyes and what you know . . . you can learn from this golf swing.
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02-03-2008, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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1. What causes the ball to go low?
2. How did he eliminate the left side?
3. How did he hit HIS fade?
4. How did he manage to hit the ball solid almost everytime?
Uses your eyes and what you know . . . you can learn from this golf swing.
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1. Plays the ball a little back, hands are well ahead at impact, club stays low well after impact.
2. Replanes the club well after impact, that is, down-the-line the club exits below the left shoulder. Also, angle hinges. Finally, he rotates his body hard aiding him in rotating the clubface very little in the downswing. Combine very little clubface rotation with a good amount of trigger delay it is hard to hit a hook.
3. See #2
4. His clubshaft came into impact in almost the same position (down-the-line) as it inhabited at address. Other players that did this extremely well, Nelson, Hogan, Snead, Price, all extremely solid ballstrikers. While it it not necessary to bring the shaft through at the same angle (or very close) as it was at address, it is pretty hard to do this and NOT hit the ball solid.
Matt
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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