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Old 02-12-2008, 12:40 AM
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We have had 75 inches of snow so far this year with another 5 - 10 on its way. This all started around the beginning of November. Its also been below zero for 3 straight days. Wind chill in my area of Wisconsin was 45 below. You southern boys would be dead if you lived here.

Give Matt a break - we need a "sun and warmth" IV STAT!!!!!
Everybody tries to give the Southern Man a hard time . . . with 75 inches of snow . . . you can't tell me that people in Wisconsin aren't cooped up in the trailer nekkid chasin' their play cuzins around . . . y'all are just better at burying that skelton under the igloo.

What's cooler than cool???
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:03 AM
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With the release of the new Tomasello video a recording from 1989, it will be interesting to see/hear how much Tommy talks about pulling the club down with both forearms to start the downswing. As far as the pulling down of the right forearm and the uncocking the right elbow at start down....when I studied with Tommy I asked him where did that come from....where in the book does it say that...Tommy's response 7-3. From my lessons with Tommy and what is written in the book....I believe the paper trail in the book (especially the 7th edition) that shows how Tommy taught swinging can be found in the following sections of the book...follow this trail....start with section 7-3, then go to 10-3-B...then 10-3-D, next 6-B-2-0, 12-5-3 then watch the #5 Chapter series video on Power then watch the #2 Letter series video. Pay attention to the comments on forearms and full power.

Thanks Howard for making the new Tomasello tapes available....I'm sure many new insights will come from watching the tapes over and over....in addition to the comments from the forum members who have bought and will do a complete study of the instruction. Good Job!!!!

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Old 02-13-2008, 09:04 AM
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With the release of the new Tomasello video a recording from 1989, it will be interesting to see/hear how much Tommy talks about pulling the club down with both forearms to start the downswing. As far as the pulling down of the right forearm and the uncocking the right elbow at start down....when I studied with Tommy I asked him where did that come from....where in the book does it say that...Tommy's response 7-3. From my lessons with Tommy and what is written in the book....I believe the paper trail in the book (especially the 7th edition) that shows how Tommy taught swinging can be found in the following sections of the book...follow this trail....start with section 7-3, then go to 10-3-B...then 10-3-D, next 6-B-2-0, 12-5-3 then watch the #5 Chapter series video on Power then watch the #2 Letter series video. Pay attention to the comments on forearms and full power.

Thanks Howard for making the new Tomasello tapes available....I'm sure many new insights will come from watching the tapes over and over....in addition to the comments from the forum members who have bought and will do a complete study of the instruction. Good Job!!!!

DG
Science blows holes in this TT, forearm, maximum power theory.

Firstly, I have seen ZERO data in ANY of the 3-D imaging technology that supports the theory about the forearms starting the downstroke. So, you can choose to believe the theory and ignore the data or believe the data and ignore the theory.

Secondly, it ruins the sequencing and summation of the proper stretch-shorten cycles of the involved muscle groups.

If you still choose to believe that the world is flat, the rest of Tommy's work will be considered a bunch of garbage. And, that's not the case; because, Tommy had a lot to offer.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke View Post
Science blows holes in this TT, forearm, maximum power theory.

Firstly, I have seen ZERO data in ANY of the 3-D imaging technology that supports the theory about the forearms starting the downstroke. So, you can choose to believe the theory and ignore the data or believe the data and ignore the theory.

Secondly, it ruins the sequencing and summation of the proper stretch-shorten cycles of the involved muscle groups.

If you still choose to believe that the world is flat, the rest of Tommy's work will be considered a bunch of garbage. And, that's not the case; because, Tommy had a lot to offer.
DD,

Would this qualify as "UNRELATED jibber jabber?"
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Old 02-13-2008, 01:38 PM
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DD,

Would this qualify as "UNRELATED jibber jabber?"
I kinda like the unrelated jibber jabber and if you pay attention, you may just find some related jibber jabber that may work for someone on the forum. Remember that you may speak your opinion of the so called jibber jabber, but don't paint everyone with a broad brush. I have been to some very serious forums and they don't seem to last very long, people lose interest without some entertainment. Now I have also been to some forums that provide much entertainment without any of the content that bucket and "o" provide. I personally think they are a very valuable asset to this forum. Please don't tell them I said that!!!

I personally love your posts with regard to TT. I love that you have generously provided materials from such a great teacher, but we should all be open to differing ideas and procedures without getting upset at another's views!!

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Sorry...I can't resist!

1) I love the TT "bone of contention" it challenges what we think v. what we know.
2) A forum with no psychological air (humor) is generally short lived. Why? No one cares about it beyond what they can siphon from it. I have noticed a lot of lurkers on the member's list. My conscience forced me to post. My contributions are not sufficient payment (in a recognizable or desirable currency!)...but Yoda deserves that at the very least.
3) There is not such thing as sophisticated humor. I don't do vulgar...carte blanche for the rest. If it were say...me...posting one juvenile tirade after the next I would agree with you...but it is guys that have given us both a few laughs as well as a great deal of substance.
4) Ferreting through the junior high antics is a small price to pay, don't you think?
5) I do not have many faces to match to names, but I do have a few marginal personalities earmarked! We seldom learn from strangers. Relationship is the conduit of learning. I respect TT because he obviously understood that, as you well know.

6) I value Delaware Golf's contribution to this...the BEST site in golfdom.

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Ted,

Wouldn't it have been great if Homer had access to the 3D tech stuff?

(Although the book would still be hard to follow, I reckon)

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Old 02-13-2008, 01:36 PM
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Those who order the new Tomasello DVD's will know the truth. Arguing about this is another form of wasting my time. Like Tom Tomasello, I like to do things efficiently and effectively.

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Old 02-13-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke View Post
Science blows holes in this TT, forearm, maximum power theory.

Firstly, I have seen ZERO data in ANY of the 3-D imaging technology that supports the theory about the forearms starting the downstroke. So, you can choose to believe the theory and ignore the data or believe the data and ignore the theory.

Secondly, it ruins the sequencing and summation of the proper stretch-shorten cycles of the involved muscle groups.

If you still choose to believe that the world is flat, the rest of Tommy's work will be considered a bunch of garbage. And, that's not the case; because, Tommy had a lot to offer.

Have no clue what you're talking about...

Again....TGM....Whipcracking 9-2 (reference the #6 DVD of the new Tomasello video series). 6-B-2-0 The Second Power Accumulator....muscles of both forearms....are available to actuate this Assembly. "Homer Kelley".

I work for Boeing as did Homer.....we do lots of testing. No data probably means exactly that...no 3-D technology test of a forearm type swing.

You all might be disappointed.....on the new DVD series, Tomasello still holds firmly that a swing that starts with the lower body is not desirable. Why might you ask....more potential for error. Tomasello even references Jack Nicklaus as hitting bad shots due to a lower body swing.

I recommend all of the doubters attempt to get a copy of the #6, #9 and #10 DVD's there is some really good stuff on there....Tomasello talking about the skins game and the players putting their own money on the line is classic...now, I'll listen to something like that....good story telling and humorous.


I'm done...

Back to regular programming...


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