Again....TGM....Whipcracking 9-2 (reference the #6 DVD of the new Tomasello video series). 6-B-2-0 The Second Power Accumulator....muscles of both forearms....are available to actuate this Assembly. "Homer Kelley".
I work for Boeing as did Homer.....we do lots of testing. No data probably means exactly that...no 3-D technology test of a forearm type swing.
You all might be disappointed.....on the new DVD series, Tomasello still holds firmly that a swing that starts with the lower body is not desirable. Why might you ask....more potential for error. Tomasello even references Jack Nicklaus as hitting bad shots due to a lower body swing.
I recommend all of the doubters attempt to get a copy of the #6, #9 and #10 DVD's there is some really good stuff on there....Tomasello talking about the skins game and the players putting their own money on the line is classic...now, I'll listen to something like that....good story telling and humorous.
I'm done...
Back to regular programming...
DG
If he starts down by pulling the Arms, then is he bracing the turn with the right leg as a backstop? I sure he has too. There is a discussion in another thread about Left Leg Vs. Right Leg. I'm on the side of the Right Leg. I think that almost all are. That would be interesting because IMHO you would brace with your Right Leg before the Turning Motion just as one would do in a Non-Pivot Stroke.
'the Shoulders respond to the Hips in both directions'. He didn't say Always.
What guarantee will we have for a motionless head?
Keep the Knee Bend and Waist Bend.I agree.
Pivot is 90% of the Swing. Clear the Hips. In Both Directions. I agree.
Power is Zone 2. "Left Wrist is controlled by the Right Wrist and Right Forearm."I agree. No one Else seems to.
"All balls are played just behind Low Point". I agree.
There is a very interesting notion he made. That 'Hip Action (boosts) (my word) the #4 Accumulator. And that their can be a 4 Barrel Swinger who would use a Right Arm (Hard) Slapping Motion at the Bottom of the Swing. I got the idea that he meant that a 4 Barrel Swinger replaces Hip action with Right Arm Action. It seems Plausible.
New DVD's have not arrived here yet but does he contradict anything in the Australian videos for example during Tomasello’s demonstration on the pivot he says.
“Since we don’t have any arms to start the down swing – lower your right shoulder. When you lower your right shoulder watch how your left hip slides laterally towards the target without you attempting to do anything to it.”
In the Arms video he says : ”The first thing to do is connect. Now what will happen is your left hip will respond to this motion by starting to move out of the way.”
This is reminiscent of Harvey Penick’s “Magic move” “ To start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot while bringing your right elbow back down to your body. This is one move, not two”
Are they both saying the same thing? i.e. when you lower your right shoulder does that bring your right elbow back to your body thus causing your left hip to slide laterally which shifts your weight to your left foot. All of which is accomplished as one move?
Is this simply two perspectives of the one action and is he consistent in his new tapes?
New DVD's have not arrived here yet but does he contradict anything in the Australian videos for example during Tomasello’s demonstration on the pivot he says.
“Since we don’t have any arms to start the down swing – lower your right shoulder. When you lower your right shoulder watch how your left hip slides laterally towards the target without you attempting to do anything to it.”
In the Arms video he says : ”The first thing to do is connect. Now what will happen is your left hip will respond to this motion by starting to move out of the way.”
This is reminiscent of Harvey Penick’s “Magic move” “ To start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot while bringing your right elbow back down to your body. This is one move, not two”
Are they both saying the same thing? i.e. when you lower your right shoulder does that bring your right elbow back to your body thus causing your left hip to slide laterally which shifts your weight to your left foot. All of which is accomplished as one move?
Is this simply two perspectives of the one action and is he consistent in his new tapes?
You're getting confused with a drill with the right shoulder and a golf swing with a Shoulder Turn Throw. Tommy taught both. That should be cleared up with the new DVDs.
You're getting confused with a drill with the right shoulder and a golf swing with a Shoulder Turn Throw. Tommy taught both. That should be cleared up with the new DVDs.
New DVD's have not arrived here yet but does he contradict anything in the Australian videos for example during Tomasello’s demonstration on the pivot he says.
“Since we don’t have any arms to start the down swing – lower your right shoulder. When you lower your right shoulder watch how your left hip slides laterally towards the target without you attempting to do anything to it.”
In the Arms video he says : ”The first thing to do is connect. Now what will happen is your left hip will respond to this motion by starting to move out of the way.”
This is reminiscent of Harvey Penick’s “Magic move” “ To start your downswing, let your weight shift to your left foot while bringing your right elbow back down to your body. This is one move, not two”
Are they both saying the same thing? i.e. when you lower your right shoulder does that bring your right elbow back to your body thus causing your left hip to slide laterally which shifts your weight to your left foot. All of which is accomplished as one move?
Is this simply two perspectives of the one action and is he consistent in his new tapes?
Yes, TT is consistent and adament about the right shoulder lowering in getting the right elbow down in front of the right hip in the new DVDs.
Nothing inconsistent that I noted with the Australian series. But I have only watched about 25% of the content. He also said the shoulder move is not the only way to do it, but it is a move that can be consciously triggered. He seemed to have liked teaching the swinging motion this way, but he kept repeating "There are other ways to do it!"
I hope this tides you over till you can judge for yourself!
Yes, TT is consistent and adament about the right shoulder lowering in getting the right elbow down in front of the right hip in the new DVDs.
Nothing inconsistent that I noted with the Australian series. But I have only watched about 25% of the content. He also said the shoulder move is not the only way to do it, but it is a move that can be consciously triggered. He seemed to have liked teaching the swinging motion this way, but he kept repeating "There are other ways to do it!"
I hope this tides you over till you can judge for yourself!
UPP in cold Ohio
The bottom line is the right shoulder has to move on plane in the downswing...whether you're using the arms to start the club down or if you use a shoulder turn throw trigger.
I sure he has too. There is a discussion in another thread about Left Leg Vs. Right Leg. I'm on the side of the Right Leg. I think that almost all are. That would be interesting because IMHO you would brace with your Right Leg before the Turning Motion just as one would do in a Non-Pivot Stroke.
Hybrid Mode
