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Old 03-05-2008, 01:01 AM
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Defining Centrifugal Force
Originally Posted by ChangeMySwing View Post

Just for the sake of argument:
I would argue that in the real world no one uses centrifugal force to swing a golf club.
Originally Posted by ChangeMySwing View Post
Sounds like you guys are using TGM science that doesn't hold much weight outside of the yellow book.
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As you can see, we have established a special thread wherein you may state and defend your arguments.



Homer Kelley was well aware of the academic arguments concerning centrifugal force. In fact, he discussed those issues with our January 1982 GSEM class. In one of the lighter-hearted moments of that week, and with his voice mocking his detractors, he said: "There is no such thing as centrifugal force, son!"

In his book (The Glossary) he chose to define it for golfers as follows:
CENTRIFUGAL FORCE

Example -- whirling weight on a string.


Mechanical -- The resistance of the Inertia in an orbiting object to change in direction.

Golf -- The effort of the Swinging Clubhead to pull the Primary Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club) into a straight line.

This common ground concept underlies most discussions throughout our Forums. However, in this special thread, feel free to 'have it your way'. I don't expect any earth-shaking revelations or resolutions -- in the 25 years since Homer's passing, the arguments have grown quite tired -- but you will have had your say, and as a result of the discussion, we all may actually learn something.

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Old 03-05-2008, 01:47 AM
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Physicists labeled centrifugal force- “ficticious” as opposed to a “True” force not because it doesn’t exist but because it exists within limitations, unlike Gravity that exists in all conditions. The limitations that surround centrifugal force is that it only occurs within a rotational force- like a rock on a whirling string or lets see…. A golf swing that propels a clubhead along a circle and is released with the uncocking of the left wrist along a straight base line. Centrifugal force and centripetal force can only exist together at the same time with each other.
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No.... It doesn't exist because it DOESN'T EXIST. Lets say you are a physicist tasked with analyzing a problem. Lets say you decide it would be easier to solve if you let the coordinate system rotate with the object being studied. A coordinate system that is allowed to rotate is called a: NON-INERTIAL coordinate system. When we us a non-inertial coordinate system to solve a problem we must include a FUDGE FACTOR.... A FICTITIOUS (meaning not real or non-existent) force in order to make Newton's laws work. We call this non-existent fudge factor CENTRIFUGAL FORCE.



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Physicists labeled centrifugal force- “ficticious” as opposed to a “True” force not because it doesn’t exist but because it exists within limitations, unlike Gravity that exists in all conditions. The limitations that surround centrifugal force is that it only occurs within a rotational force- like a rock on a whirling string or lets see…. A golf swing that propels a clubhead along a circle and is released with the uncocking of the left wrist along a straight base line. Centrifugal force and centripetal force can only exist together at the same time with each other.
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