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03-12-2008, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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Thanks, nice to see the full article.
Basically his setup was all about the fade, and his hands tried as hard as he could to hook the heck out of it.
Hence the reason item #22 in the the checklist for all strokes is capitalized:
DELIVERY LINE ROLL PREP
J. Miller did the same thing, setup at the extreme (weaker grip than most) and just fire those hands through with FULL ROLL!
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Did Hogan full roll??? Or did he say he full rolled?
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03-12-2008, 10:51 AM
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Bucket, can you post that pic I just sent you?
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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03-12-2008, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mrodock
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Bucket, can you post that pic I just sent you?
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You really want me to put THAT pic up???? If you say so . . . . .
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03-12-2008, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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You really want me to put THAT pic up???? If you say so . . . . .
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NO NO NO!!!!!!!!! The Hogan one!
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"In my experience, if you stay with the essentials you WILL build a repeatable swing undoubtedly. If you can master the Imperatives you have a champion" (Vikram).
The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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03-12-2008, 10:06 PM
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03-13-2008, 10:04 AM
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Bucks,
A thing of beauty is indeed a joy forever!
UPP in a snowbank in Ohio
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03-13-2008, 10:57 AM
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Love that photo Mrodock
What is on display here?
I see a fully extended right arm with a still bent right wrist.
An on plane right shoulder. Swinging left?
Anyone else have any insights?
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03-13-2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left
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Love that photo Mrodock
What is on display here?
I see a fully extended right arm with a still bent right wrist.
An on plane right shoulder. Swinging left?
Anyone else have any insights?
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Handle down . . . Left Wrist not fully uncocked . . . Still in his Axis Tilt . . . right heel still down . . . right knee still relatively "in line" with the left . . . Hip Slant . . .
Is he swinging left or simply swinging on plane?
What about the face? What about it's relationship to the plane and the #3 accumulator associated with that plane? Is it Horizontal Hinging or is it not?
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 03-13-2008 at 11:04 AM.
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03-13-2008, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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Here you are sir . .
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12,
This may not have been the pic Mrodock wanted posted, but these 2 pics take on a whole new dimension for me.
After many years of TGM book study I was finally able to get a lesson from an AI this week (and a really good one). As one who has always set up with "low hands" (and a high right forearm) and who has always battled with an under-plane downswing with too much #3 acc..... these 2 pics reflect, precisely, the "goal" I now have for my address and impact right forearm positions.
You've all seen/heard Yoda preach about getting the RF on plane at address and at impact.... I can tell you I have a new found appreciation for that geometry.
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