High vs low right shoulder at impact

[Daryl]

With your Left Hand, Grip the Club normally. With your Right Hand, Grip the Clubshaft just below the Grip. Both Arms Straight. Go to Impact. Your Right Shoulder is Low. While in this position, regrip your Right Hand and you'll have a good sense of how much he Right Elbow is Bent at Impact.

[okie]

What don't work! I have "discovered" for my own unique set of demonic tendencies that it is seldom an overly low right shoulder, but rather a head that is no longer centered. I bought the baloney that due to the fact that the right arm is lower than the left that the head no longer should be centered. Setting up as a tripod opened a vista of TGM possibilities for me e.g. right forearm fanning. After all we have centered head when we give Homer's brilliance yet another standing ovation! Most people are amazed at how low the right shoulder is at impact, even if they are utilizing an upright plane. One of my favorite TGM concepts is FIX...so darn simple...but it continues tp allude the masses. My favorite question for any player these says is "Show me impact." Everytime, thus far, without exception or adequate explanation the right forearm is all together too high...like Homer said.

Passing tip. IMO the most important swing aid a person can buy is a full length mirror! Even before an impact bag...OK maybe after the dowels? In my case:

if I can:

1. Set up as a tripod
2. With my flying wedges
3. Ball correctly positioned relative to low point

Then...I will make a good pass at it!

[dkerby]

Okie, an observation from study of the "The final missing Piece" by
Trolio, the head must stay centered between the feet while
making the Hogan move to the left. Otherwise you will not be
able to get the proper axis tilt to put the right shoulder on plane
for the downswing. Sure sounds like you are doing some good
things.

[Mike O]

Okie, an observation from study of the "The final missing Piece" by
Trolio, the head must stay centered between the feet while
making the Hogan move to the left. Otherwise you will not be
able to get the proper axis tilt to put the right shoulder on plane
for the downswing. Sure sounds like you are doing some good
things.

I haven't read the book. And I don't know if "centered between the feet" also means a still head. Certainly the above could be some very good advice to be applied to the golf movement. But I do know that Hogan's head did not stay in the same position while making "the Hogan move to the left".

[dkerby]

Mike, The pictures in Trolios book, taken from the video
In Persuit of Perfection by Darracott, Shows that the head
moves down but not left during the Hogan move. The pictures
indicate that the head moved forward, maybe one or two inches,
from the top to follow through and then forward to finish.
You being a master student of the game, I think that you would
enjoy "The Final Mission Piece" by Trolio. It is a masterpiece.

[Mike O]

Mike, The pictures in Trolios book, taken from the video
In Persuit of Perfection by Darracott, Shows that the head
moves down but not left during the Hogan move. The pictures
indicate that the head moved forward, maybe one or two inches,
from the top to follow through and then forward to finish.
You being a master student of the game, I think that you would
enjoy "The Final Missing Piece" by Trolio. It is a masterpiece.

You're right - I need to read the book- sounds like a good read from all the comments.

[okie]

Okie, an observation from study of the "The final missing Piece" by
Trolio, the head must stay centered between the feet while
making the Hogan move to the left. Otherwise you will not be
able to get the proper axis tilt to put the right shoulder on plane
for the downswing. Sure sounds like you are doing some good
things.

I am starting to have some fun! Mike Big "O" makes a good distinction between a centered/stationary head and a stationary head (if I read it right.) I played for along time with the head over my right knee. It was explained that this was normal and correct...ya know as a result of the right arm being lower than the right etc. I did a pretty good job at keeping it stationary...but I was hitched to the wrong post! A centered AND stationary head produces a more efficient move (based on a lack of the same!) I find this helps govern the pace of my swing...if you cannot make a "quiet move" you are proably substituting effort for technique! I probably do move a bit, but the more I minimize an unruly pivot the crisper I hit it! I am no longer sympathetic to pivoting around somewhere in between my shoulders.