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Old 05-21-2008, 12:03 AM
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Guys we need a ground swell of interest so Bagger can stop teasing us here. Come on lets get it started. Here is my first submission.

I asked Yoda a question once about my pre practice warm up regime in which amongst other things I hit short pitch shots with just my right arm.

It went something like this:

Me : "Im still swinging here though right?"

Yoda: "Yes"

Beyond that I asked not. All of this leads me to wonder about the possible existence of RAS putting. Although I have recently gone to using my feet to power my putting stroke having tried every other part of my body with mixed results.
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Old 05-21-2008, 08:17 AM
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Ras
I feel that I'm caught in the middle of hitting and swinging, the more I learn, the better I like it. Please Go On.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:06 AM
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O.B.'s Right Arm Swing
Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post

I asked Yoda a question once about my pre practice warm up regime in which amongst other things I hit short pitch shots with just my right arm.

It went something like this:

Me : "Im still swinging here though right?"

Yoda: "Yes"

Beyond that I asked not.
Even though you were using only your Right Arm, you were Pulling the Club (lengthwise) through Impact. And when you do that -- with either the Right Arm or Left -- you are Swinging.

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Old 05-21-2008, 09:56 AM
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Add me to the list, Bagger.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:53 AM
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RAS - Swing or Hit?
I want to approach this based on what Homer Kelley said about RAS.




When you use the active right arm as a RASer, is it a Swing or a Hit?

In 7-19 Homer says - The "Right Arm Swing" is simply 10-3-K with the loosened Wrists (7-1) and longitudinal acceleration using 7-19-3 above. Only with this "Rope Handle" procedure can the Right Arm be said to "Swing" - and still per 1-L-9 and -10.

One of the key definitions of a swing is allowing Centrifugal Force to release the club through impact. Even though the right arm is active and as Yoda said, pulling longitudinally, it is swinging the club because you are allowing Centrifugal Force actuate the #2 and #3 accumulators (uncock and roll). Hence the requirement for "Loosened Wrists" in The Bat Minor Stroke.

Just like the left arm swinger, Centrifugal Force uncocks the left wrist and right elbow (7-1). You have the choice to use non-automatic release types, but CF cannot be overridden or the Swing becomes a Hit.

There are some primary differences between Right vs Left arm swinging - Next up...The Bat!
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:34 PM
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I think this is a great subject and look forward to keeping up with this thread. I love hitting, but when I want to really get in to one, with a nice draw, especially with the driver, I focus on a nice big Right Forearm Fan going back, then pull down with my right arm. I don't think there is another pattern that I have found that lets me hit it any further.
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Old 05-21-2008, 06:17 PM
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What a treat and just when we needed it. Thanks Fella's

Did Homer really hear and answer the last question that was posed to him? Its hard to make out but it sounds something like:

Questioner: "So the natural inclination of a right hander (swinger) would be to right arm swing?"

Homer: "Ya, I think if he wants to swing he should be a right arm swinger. Its a good point"

Did Homer really mean to imply that right handed people playing golf right handed should be RAS if they want to swing? I am inclined to think there was a slight mis communication. That the "He" of Homers answer really refers to the golfer in front of them and his own active RAS.


Oh can I add Seve to the list of RAS? Any objections?
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Old 05-21-2008, 06:35 PM
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Whoa, wait a minute.

Does this bring into the realm of possibility, the golfer who radially accelerates the club with his left arm, the LAH? In our midst? Golfing amongst us?

Any video Bagger?

How 'bout Bigfoot? UFO's? Lynn, did you shoot the Bigfoot footage? Thats Luke in the monkey suit right?

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Old 05-21-2008, 06:46 PM
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Count me in too. I thinks I have some RAS in me as well. Knowledge is a beautiful thing when used for good!
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Old 05-21-2008, 07:56 PM
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Stroke Primer
Before I dive in, lets take a quick look at Basic Strokes in general.

There are 3 Major Basic Strokes based on Elbow Position at the release point; Pitch, Punch, and Push. Pitch elbow location is down and in front, Punch is located down and to the side, and Push is up and out. For the most part Swingers use either Pitch or Punch, and Hitters use either Punch or Push. For the sake of brevity I'm over-generalizing here, there is more details to be found in 10-3.

There are 7 Minor Basic Strokes which Homer classifies as Arm Motions. Every golf swing uses a Major Basic Stroke in combination with a Minor Basic Stroke. Said another way, every swing has a defined elbow position combined with a defined arm motion. Minor Strokes can also be combined to execute short shots. Homer lists all of the possible combinations in section 11-0-3.

In terms of the Right Arm Swing, Homer narrowly defines it as using the 10-3-K Minor Basic Stroke called "The Bat". The Bat can be combined with either a Pitch elbow location or Punch elbow location. Homer describes The Bat stroke as "Right Elbow Hinge" in chapter 11. Next step is to explore The Bat.
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