Good examples! But even finding out more, is that possible to have mutual understanding? I try one:
Person A – I make good use of centrifugal force
Person B – Centrifugal force does not actually exist
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
Another technique that fortunately isn't used much here but have seen it a few times to be of note is where you ask a question where by answering you assume something already.
Person A - I think that xyz has a real function in the golf stroke.
Person B - Is it true that you no longer miss the ball 90% of the time?
Person A - Ummm yeah 'I suppose'.
Person B - Ha Ha, you used to be awful no wonder you had to resort to such silly measures to get better.