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Old 09-03-2008, 11:02 PM
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I've been long (and in vain) waiting for a follow-up to this very interesting thread. Who (and why) threw the sponge? Lynn or Andy? Are they still in good relationships?
No thrown sponges, Libero. Just men at work.

Andy (Plummer) and Mike (Bennett) are riding a wave. I see them -- and talk with them -- most every week when I'm out on TOUR. Most recently, just two weeks ago at The Barclays.

They are dedicated to their students, and with camera in hand, they do their best to help every week.

More power -- no pun intended -- to them!

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Old 09-04-2008, 11:15 AM
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Plummer, Bennett and Blake, three tour level instructors who help everyone appreciate the golfing machine and play better. No golf channel commentary, no swingvision analysis that sounds the same every time, no comments on student's personal problems to explain a student's lack of progress. A good eye, imagination and the yellow book= results.
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Old 09-04-2008, 02:13 PM
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Hi Lynn,old man,(even if I'm nearly as old as you),thanks for ur reply.
I understand the going. Good to know stack&tilters still belong to our
family.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:45 PM
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Plummer, Bennett and Blake, three tour level instructors who help everyone appreciate the golfing machine and play better. No golf channel commentary, no swingvision analysis that sounds the same every time, no comments on student's personal problems to explain a student's lack of progress. A good eye, imagination and the yellow book= results.
Thanks, Dodger. It really is happening . . . .

On the practice tees of America . . .

On the PGA TOUR . . .

And even on The Golf Channel on Saturday of The Barclays . . .

The Stressed Clubshaft (Clubhead Control and Power) . . . .

The Flat Left Wrist (Clubface Control and Rhythm) . . .

The Straight Plane Line (Clubshaft Control and the Inclined Plane of Motion).

Think on these things.

Make at least modest strides toward them.

And realize the golf of your dreams.

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Old 12-03-2008, 01:15 AM
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I have read and re-read this post many times over the past few months and had to finally sign-up to post a question to you.

With ONLY the interest of knowledge (not to cause controversy amongst peers) as the basis of this question in mind.....

Which point (or 2 points) of Mike and Andy's pattern do you MOST disagree with?

Thanks for the insight and for creating a site with such an incredible wealth of knowledge.
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:41 AM
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I have read and re-read this post many times over the past few months and had to finally sign-up to post a question to you.

With ONLY the interest of knowledge (not to cause controversy amongst peers) as the basis of this question in mind.....

Which point (or 2 points) of Mike and Andy's pattern do you MOST disagree with?

Thanks for the insight and for creating a site with such an incredible wealth of knowledge.
Clearwater,

I am glad you enjoyed these past few months as a 'lurking' guest. Welcome aboard as a bonafide member, and thank you for your first post!



To your question:

I advocate a Right Shoulder that moves back to the Inclined Plane (Turned Shoulder Plane / 10-13-B), not a Left Shoulder that moves down (toward wherever).

I advocate Hands that move from an Elbow Plane (10-6-A) to the Turned Shoulder Plane (Single Shift / 10-7-B), not Hands that move from a Hands Plane (10-6-E) to an Elbow Plane ("X" Classification).

Andy Plummer (Plumdog on this site) and Mike Bennett are friends that I meet on the practice tees of the PGA TOUR. I admire their work, but on these two points . . .

We definitely see things differently.

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Old 12-03-2008, 03:35 AM
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Clearwater,

I am glad you enjoyed these past few months as a 'lurking' guest. Welcome aboard as a bonafide member, and thank you for your first post!



To your question:

I advocate a Right Shoulder that moves back to the Inclined Plane (Turned Shoulder Plane / 10-13-B), not a Left Shoulder that moves down (toward wherever).

I advocate Hands that move from an Elbow Plane (10-6-A) to the Turned Shoulder Plane (Single Shift / 10-7-B), not Hands that move from a Hands Plane (10-6-E) to an Elbow Plane ("X" Classification).

Andy Plummer (Plumdog on this site) and Mike Bennett are friends that I meet on the practice tees of the PGA TOUR. I admire their work, but on these two points . . .

We definitely see things differently.

The beauty is that both procedures work.

A Q.

Isn´t Elbow plane 10-6-A and not an X?
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:03 AM
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Isn´t Elbow plane 10-6-A and not an X?
The second 'departure' in my post referenced Plane Angle -- Variations (Component #7) not Plane Angle -- Basic (Component #6). The Shift from Elbow Plane (10-6-A) to Turned Shoulder Plane (10-6-B) is defined as Single Shift (10-7-B). The Shift from Hands Plane (10-6-E) to Elbow Plane is undefined as a Component #7 Variation. Hence, the "X" Classification per 1-K and 10-0.
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