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Old 09-24-2008, 08:04 PM
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[quote=okie;56047]Example I do not think Tiger's knee would be jacked up if he kept his head at its impact fix position at startup (i.e. he stands too tall at address, has to squat to get back down and then torques the left knee coming out of the squat) Of course all of the options are available to him and he has figured out a way to get by!
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I am not sure the Tiger knee speculation is correct. Els, Perry, funk, Jacobson and others have had knee surgery. Toms had back surgery and Couples suffers from back problems. Yet John Daly has had none of these problems yet had stomach (hard to figure out why) muscles repaired. It may have to do more with genetics as many basketball players have knee problems and many others never have a problem.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:20 PM
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Okie,

I guess I'm still a little in the fog about the ball's distance from the low point for the driver since its plane is flatter than the wedge...To me your lob wedge ball position is 6" from the low point and 2" with the driver..But per Andy & 1-L-18 reads the ball should be closer to the low point on a steeper plane..

Thanks again when you have a chance

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Old 09-25-2008, 08:58 AM
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I am not sure the Tiger knee speculation is correct. Els, Perry, funk, Jacobson and others have had knee surgery. Toms had back surgery and Couples suffers from back problems. Yet John Daly has had none of these problems yet had stomach (hard to figure out why) muscles repaired. It may have to do more with genetics as many basketball players have knee problems and many others never have a problem.[/quote]

It is indeed speculation. Perhaps not the best example of to steel my point. I was suggesting that a high head at address neccessitates a bob-squat move in order to go down. Tiger may indeed have peanut brittle for knees, but my contention is that left leg snapping straight does not help his cause. Again my point was seeking the optimum mechanical advantage. The original critique was concerning the benefit Ballard's suggestion that lateral movement is an "imperative." I was trying to communicate to Mashie72 my understanding of the difference between method teaching (limited view of what works best) and TGM (the principles that undergird ALL workable patterns)

So my abridged contention is that due to Tiger's genetic predisposition to suspect knees he would be better off not snapping that left knee! I wince when he does it! I'm wrong more times than I am right on a host of topics so I welcome correction...with a wince of course!
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:20 AM
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Thanks for everyone's posts for the hybrid Pop-up question..This post is for others who might have the same problem...

It's just my best guess that the pop-ups were primarily due to 1) Bobby C's book mentioning the swing bottom and aiming point are both 4" ahead of the ball and 2) lack of pulley in my swing...I took BC's word for 1) because he has/had a GSED and 2) I basically had just straight line belt all the way to the aiming point with little or no release (pulley).

Add in the uphill lies with heavy bottomed hybrids and I'd pop them up every so often..

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The original critique was concerning the benefit Ballard's suggestion that lateral movement is an "imperative." I was trying to communicate to Mashie72 my understanding of the difference between method teaching (limited view of what works best) and TGM (the principles that undergird ALL workable patterns) 

Also, FWIW Okie, I'll be the first one to hand you $5 when you tell Jim Dent to his face that there is no benefit to latteral motion for him.

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Old 10-10-2008, 10:50 AM
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Me Thinks!
I would suggest that he is a superb striker of the ball despite the extraneous movement, not neccessarily because of it!
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