Bigwill, Thank you very much for your well thought out
responce to may question about my student. You spent
a lot of time with a solution for me. My thinking has been
mostly along the lines that you mentioned. Most of the
problems, the student has had with pulling with left arm
has been over-the-top moves and/or not getting off the
right side. He watched Yodas swing and felt that Yoda
stayed mostly on the left side on the backswing and therefor
figures that by trying to immulate Yoda that he does not
need to make a shift to the left on the downswing. I try
to explain that Yoda does favor the left side on the backswing
but that does not mean that Yoda does not move left on
the downswing with a hip turn. You are certainly correct
in that a students preception is a big key.
Thanks again, Donn
Donn . . . . Tell the dude to go to the top and stop. Have him spin open and show him how the club shoots out over the plane. Then take him to the top and push his hips left and show him how the club doesn't fly out. He has to learn how to move his hips laterally down the stance line. If he wants to spin open you could flatten out his arm swing and get him to take his hands IN more too. That way when he spins his hands have farther to travel to get out and over the plane. Ultimately . . . gotta go left with the hips. Maybe stick a shaft/dowel in the ground at an angle a few inches out side his left foot and say "Try to make your hips go to this dowel." I struggle with this myself.
Ultimately . . . gotta go left with the hips. Maybe stick a shaft/dowel in the ground at an angle a few inches out side his left foot and say "Try to make your hips go to this dowel."
Ultimately . . . gotta go left with the hips. Maybe stick a shaft/dowel in the ground at an angle a few inches out side his left foot and say "Try to make your hips go to this dowel."
Thanks a lot Bigwill, AndyR, Bucket, drewitgolf.
Been working on your suggestions with my student.
Now the student says that he wants to stay on
the left side on the backswing, then drop the right
shoulder and hands, and then pull with the left arm
to get his pivot. I mention to him that a shift/turn
to start the downswing lowers the right shoulder.
He says that he blocks the shot to the right when
he does it that way. I think that he looks a results
rather than causes. He says that he stays on the left
side and does not have to make the shift. I loaned
him my alignments DVD and asked that he look at
yoda leaving the hands at the top while making a
shift. In prior posts, Lagster and bucket observed
that trigger delay can be greater if the right shoulder
stays higher longer, Ala Hogan, Garcia, Clampet etc.
So my student wants to start the downswing with the
shoulders and hands. I must admit that if he does not
do this he tends to come over the top. My way of
thinking is that you do not set the accumulators by
starting with a shoulder drop before a shift/pivot.
What a battle. What do you suggest?
Bigwill, The pivot comes after the shoulder drop when the
pulling of the left arm starts. I guess that, as Homer
Kelley says, the left arm is actually substituting for the
pivot to introduce the circular motion required to produce
Centrifugal Force. The student does not want to start
the downswing with a pivot, to set #4. How forcefull should
the instruction be to insist on the pivot or should I just try
to help the guy with a less effective stroke?
drewitgolf, am rechecking Alignments, ball position and
hinge to get rid of blocks.