Right forearm takeaway

[Jeff]

Yoda - you are correct.

I was incorrect to state that the left arm flying wedge is on-plane. I should have stated that the back of the left hand is on-plane because it is the only part of the left arm that approximates the inclined plane.

Consider this composite photo of Stuart Appleby.



His clubshaft is on-plane at the top of his backswing, which means that the flat left wrist and right palm are alongside, and
parallel to the inclined plane. However, the left arm is angled slightly off-plane in the direction of the left shoulder socket.

Yoda - this issue made me think of another question, which I have now added.

If a golfer has flexible wrists, and he can bend his right wrist back to 90 degrees at the end-backswing position so that he can get his right forearm angled closer to 90 degrees relative to the clubshaft at the end-backswing position, is that a disadvantage? In other words, I can understand the right forearm flying wedge acting as a supporting strut to the left arm flying wedge at the end-backswing position, but I was wondering whether it is disadvantageous to allow the right wrist to bend back fully by the end of the backswing - thereby altering the angular relationship between the right forearm and the left arm flying wedge?

Jeff.

[Yoda]

Yoda - this issue made me think of another question, which I have now added.

If a golfer has flexible wrists, and he can bend his right wrist back to 90 degrees at the end-backswing position so that he can get his right forearm angled closer to 90 degrees relative to the clubshaft at the end-backswing position, is that a disadvantage?

. . . I was wondering whether it is disadvantageous to allow the right wrist to bend back fully by the end of the backswing - thereby altering the angular relationship between the right forearm and the left arm flying wedge?

The Left Wrist is the Master Wrist, and ideally, dictates any movement (Horizontal, Perpendicular or Rotational) of the Right. The Bent Right Wrist at Impact, then, is the complement of the Flat Left Wrist, and this relationship is established no later than the Top.

Any undue Bend (Horizontal Motion) in the Right Wrist will produce a corresponding Arch in the Left. While a "small amount is advisable and useful . . . as amplification of the Clubhead Lag" (4-A-3), any exaggeration will disrupt the precision alignments of the Flying Wedges and, hence, the entire Power Package Assembly.

[Jeff]

Ed

Jeff - the other big key in my view, at least for a swingers RFT is that the elbows stay the same distance apart and point down. This helps ensure the turn is on plane during RFT, and that the loading action on PP#3 is rotated "on line". (wheel rim)

I was wondering - if the right upper limb (via the right clap hand action and bending, but level, right wrist) keeps the clubshaft on-plane throughout the backswing, then essentially the left hand's movement in space is dictated by movement of the right hand in space. Then if the left hand's movement in space is already dictated by the right hand - and the left arm is always kept straight and the left wrist is always kept flat - then wouldn't the left arm/elbow's movement automatically occur in a certain way without having to worry about it? In other words, I am presuming that the timing of left arm/forearm clockwise rotation and left wrist upcocking would occur automatically - if the right upper limb moves correctly.

Jeff.

[Jeff]

Yoda - you wrote-: "Any undue Bend (Horizontal Motion) in the Right Wrist will produce a corresponding Arch in the Left."

I can understand that situation existing at impact - when the right forearm is "fixedly" on-plane any excessive right wrist bend will produce an arched left wrist.

However, what about the top of the backswing? If the left wrist remains flat throughout the entire backswing, then wouldn't small variations in the degree of right wrist bend at the top of the backswing simply cause small variations in angling of the right forearm (relative to the left arm flying wedge) and small variations in the position of the right elbow. Would that be consequential in terms of swing mechanics?

Jeff.

[EdZ]

Yoda - you wrote-: "Any undue Bend (Horizontal Motion) in the Right Wrist will produce a corresponding Arch in the Left."

I can understand that situation existing at impact - when the right forearm is "fixedly" on-plane any excessive right wrist bend will produce an arched left wrist.

However, what about the top of the backswing? If the left wrist remains flat throughout the entire backswing, then wouldn't small variations in the degree of right wrist bend at the top of the backswing simply cause small variations in angling of the right forearm (relative to the left arm flying wedge) and small variations in the position of the right elbow. Would that be consequential in terms of swing mechanics?

Jeff.

The reason that clubface control is best kept in the left hand. (bold above).

[EdZ]

Ed

Jeff - the other big key in my view, at least for a swingers RFT is that the elbows stay the same distance apart and point down. This helps ensure the turn is on plane during RFT, and that the loading action on PP#3 is rotated "on line". (wheel rim)

I was wondering - if the right upper limb (via the right clap hand action and bending, but level, right wrist) keeps the clubshaft on-plane throughout the backswing, then essentially the left hand's movement in space is dictated by movement of the right hand in space. Then if the left hand's movement in space is already dictated by the right hand - and the left arm is always kept straight and the left wrist is always kept flat - then wouldn't the left arm/elbow's movement automatically occur in a certain way without having to worry about it? In other words, I am presuming that the timing of left arm/forearm clockwise rotation and left wrist upcocking would occur automatically - if the right upper limb moves correctly.

Jeff.

Yep, assuming that level right wrist, the flying wedges will stay in place, and the rotation will happen properly, but the rest of the machine needs to react to that move (zone 1), or you'd end up off plane.