1. Address the ball in impact fix with my right hip already set back
2. Pull my right elbow straight back (lawn mower pull) while employing extensor action and keeping the flying wedge with right wrist.
Hey Greyguy
I feel much the same. But the reality, I think, is that correct plane line tracing in Startup requires a coordinated Right Forearm Fan, Right Elbow bend and Right shoulder move back towards the plane. A pure saw or lawn mower pull alone can get me off line and off plane.
I need to check this constantly. In my old swing I used to go outside the plane line with a non bending right elbow so it feels very elbow bendy to me now, but there is more to it than just that. To check it get a mag light and grip it golf like with the lens right beside the #3 Pressure Point. Find a long straight line and see how compliant you are with tracing a straight base line , plane line in Startup.
You can do it with just the right hand but adding the left provides the Check Rein Action of the left arm which really changes things. Basically the left shoulder is now established as the Center of Radius and the right elbow has to bend for the hands to move back.............unless you want a pure shoulder rotation takeaway, which you dont. Believe me, I had one for three decades or so. They were really in vogue in my youth. I guess I was young and subject to peer pressure.
Put your mind in your #3 and draw a straight line with it. Add a feeling of Lag to it on the way down , sustain it, nurse it right through the shot and you could win three tournaments in a row with just this. Alex Sloan did anyways.
I keep rotating my Shoulders and keep my Left Arm straight to pull/drive the Power Accumulators and Club to the Top, during which the momentum of the Club gradually folds the Right Arm, turns both Forearms, cocks the Left Wrist, bends the Right Wrist and raises the Left Arm.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
I keep rotating my Shoulders and keep my Left Arm straight to pull/drive the Power Accumulators and Club to the Top, during which the momentum of the Club gradually folds the Right Arm, turns both Forearms, cocks the Left Wrist, bends the Right Wrist and raises the Left Arm.
I’m shocked.
But if I can ask a couple of questions.
1) Your Swing Plane is determined by waist bend?
2) When does your elbow stop bending?
3) Doesn’t your Right Elbow Tend to be too high at release?
4) How do you control the amount of elbow bend to have your right forearm on plane at release?
5) Don’t your hands actually stay lower at the top of the swing when you bend your right elbow in this manner?
6) Does your Right Elbow get closer to your side at the Top?
7) If the above is true, then don’t you skip an acceleration stage? Arm/Hand? Do you tend to take deep divots?
9) Do you feel like there is a Flip (Kink) in your wrists at release if you’re off plane a little?
10) How do you stop from cocking your right wrist?
1) Your Swing Plane is determined by waist bend? Pretty much, and the stance, as well.
2) When does your elbow stop bending? Near the top.
3) Doesn’t your Right Elbow Tend to be too high at release? Not really, in the presence of "Lag", but in the absence of "Steering and Hack".
4) How do you control the amount of elbow bend to have your right forearm on plane at release? For purer "Swinging", I don't control it and the shaft is usually between the right forearm and the left. For "Switting and Hitting", I intend to push the club slightly toward the right side of the target.
5) Don’t your hands actually stay lower at the top of the swing when you bend your right elbow in this manner? I don't think so. I believe it's quite on-plane.6) Does your Right Elbow get closer to your side at the Top? I think so and never pay attention to it.7) If the above is true, then don’t you skip an acceleration stage? Arm/Hand? I don't intend to accelerate the club(head), but sustain the "Lag", which, in turn, does whatever it's supposed to. Do you tend to take deep divots? I can if I want to, but don't usually do.
9) Do you feel like there is a Flip (Kink) in your wrists at release if you’re off plane a little? Maybe, but, again, it doesn't come into my mind.
10) How do you stop from cocking your right wrist? I don't need to and never pay attention on it.
Thanks You're welcome.
In a word, I usually rotate my shoulders (for the backswing) and pivot (for the downswing) only and let the "Law" take care the rest.
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
For sure, as long as it's not botherred, for example, by the intent of "Steer" or "Hack".
__________________ Yani Tseng, Go! Go! Go! Yani Tseng Did It Again! YOU load and sustain the "LAG", during which the "LAW" releases it, ideally beyond impact.
"Sustain (Yang/陽) the lag (Yin/陰)" is "the unification of Ying and Yang" (陰陽合一).
The "LAW" creates the "effect", which is the "motion" or "feel", with the "cause", which is the "intent" or "command".
"Lag" is the secret of golf, passion is the secret of life.
Think as a golfer, execute like a robot.
Rotate, twist, spin, turn. Bend the shaft.
Question....for those of you that employ the RFT, how do you ensure that the trunk coils properly?....feels (!) & thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thx, sky72
Question....for those of you that employ the RFT, how do you ensure that the trunk coils properly?....feels (!) & thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Thx, sky72
Hey sky72
For me personally it was a big big discovery courtesy of Lynn Blake that the Pivot and the Hands go in different directions in Startup. The RFT fans and bends (at the elbow , the "pickup") The right elbow lifts and lowers the Hands the Power Package up and down the Inclined Plane. Lifts and lowers, the Hands, (the #3pp, the entire Sweetspot Plane even) up and down the Inclined Plane while the trunk as you call it , the Pivot turns back or around.
Two vectors which netout with the Hands and Clubhead traveling on Plane. For me I clear my Right HIp back to a predetermined position where it semi locks , the first few inches of clubhead travel is motivated by this right hip clearing as my clubhead is hovered slightly off the ground. Lagging takeaway too. The pivot is the giant rotor of the golf swing, producing its angular or circular basic motion, its CF. After these first few inches of travel I immediately RFT (fan and bend) with the Right Elbow bending and lifting the Hands UP. It might be more common for a golfer to do them both at the same time but after experimenting I like to feel as if the hips move the clubhead just a tad. It gets rid of my old hands only forward press which arched my left wrist a tad.
Right Hip back, right elbow lifts up but only so far actively as the Hands sort of glide the last bit to TOP. No excessive lifting in other words. Momentum can do the last bit......well it must do the last bit for a good transition (sliding left while you take out the slack in the left arm whilst the left wrist is still cocking and the pressure point is getting loaded). The Hands and the Pivot (the Right Shoulder) though they travel different directions in Startup meet up on the same Inclined Plane at Top. A prearranged meeting place where the Right Shoulder and the Hands meet on the same Inclined Plane Angle. A TSP angle by definition and the perfect alignment from which the Right Shoulder can pull the Hands (sweetspot etc) Down Plane in Startdown .......all the time with a fully bent Right Elbow. To start the hands down on their own is a death move and the hackers tell tale startdown move.
This whole business might be Homers greatest insight, to my mind. For me it is anyways and it starts with that little clearing of the Right HIp and the two vectors of startup. The clearing of the Right Hip isnt so popular these days in golf instruction books or common golf literature but it is the stuff of Jones, Snead, Hogan etc etc etc. Not a frozen right hip in the bunch.
The Hands , the Right Shoulder they may seem oblivious to each others movements but they have a secret rendezvous arranged like......... Strangers in the Night.
Thank you Lynn for my very first lesson, when you showed me the Arm Set, the Cleared Hip and the Lagging Takeaway. The last 8 lessons werent too shabby either. More to come.
For me personally it was a big big discovery courtesy of Lynn Blake that the Pivot and the Hands go in different directions in Startup. The RFT fans and bends (at the elbow , the "pickup") The right elbow lifts and lowers the Hands the Power Package up and down the Inclined Plane. Lifts and lowers, the Hands, (the #3pp, the entire Sweetspot Plane even) up and down the Inclined Plane while the trunk as you call it , the Pivot turns back or around.
Two vectors which netout with the Hands and Clubhead traveling on Plane. For me I clear my Right HIp back to a predetermined position where it semi locks , the first few inches of clubhead travel is motivated by this right hip clearing as my clubhead is hovered slightly off the ground. Lagging takeaway too. The pivot is the giant rotor of the golf swing, producing its angular or circular basic motion, its CF. After these first few inches of travel I immediately RFT (fan and bend) with the Right Elbow bending and lifting the Hands UP. It might be more common for a golfer to do them both at the same time but after experimenting I like to feel as if the hips move the clubhead just a tad. It gets rid of my old hands only forward press which arched my left wrist a tad.
Right Hip back, right elbow lifts up but only so far actively as the Hands sort of glide the last bit to TOP. No excessive lifting in other words. Momentum can do the last bit......well it must do the last bit for a good transition (sliding left while you take out the slack in the left arm whilst the left wrist is still cocking and the pressure point is getting loaded). The Hands and the Pivot (the Right Shoulder) though they travel different directions in Startup meet up on the same Inclined Plane at Top. A prearranged meeting place where the Right Shoulder and the Hands meet on the same Inclined Plane Angle. A TSP angle by definition and the perfect alignment from which the Right Shoulder can pull the Hands (sweetspot etc) Down Plane in Startdown .......all the time with a fully bent Right Elbow. To start the hands down on their own is a death move and the hackers tell tale startdown move.
This whole business might be Homers greatest insight, to my mind. For me it is anyways and it starts with that little clearing of the Right HIp and the two vectors of startup. The clearing of the Right Hip isnt so popular these days in golf instruction books or common golf literature but it is the stuff of Jones, Snead, Hogan etc etc etc. Not a frozen right hip in the bunch.
The Hands , the Right Shoulder they may seem oblivious to each others movements but they have a secret rendezvous arranged like......... Strangers in the Night.
Thank you Lynn for my very first lesson, when you showed me the Arm Set, the Cleared Hip and the Lagging Takeaway. The last 8 lessons werent too shabby either. More to come.
Lots to work on there, OB. Very helpful and interesting. Thanks.
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Do you tend to take deep divots?
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