Was that click I was hearing the right impact sound?
Should there be noticeable divots past the ball with just basic motion, or just a small one?
Yes - the 'click' is a very good thing. On short shots, a click, on full shots - the sound of a rifle shot. (sizzle)
Divots are a good thing. The low point of the clubhead is under the ground, in front of the ball, so even short shots can have a divot (or at least show that you hit down to the ground, a scuff for a chip). Not a big chunk, but a smooth fairly thin divot. (wide thin divots for full shots a few inches long).
Focus on that 'click'. You can both feel, and hear, a good shot, from the putter to the driver.
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well went again today,,probably 120 basic motions.
I had replied last night and today to Daryl's posts, but I guess my login timed out while I was replying and it said my post had to be approved by mod and it hasn't shown up yet.
Today I used 9i and 56'. At first all seemed well. Was getting the nice click on the face ball was about 6' in the air traveling 20yds. Then I went to the 56' and it got worse. It seems that the more loft the club has the tougher it gets for me. I hit the squirters to the right with the 56' at first. Then I realized I was swinging left and thus when my hands went left it was opening the clubface and shooting shots off the hosel. This happened if my hands were in front or not. So I made an effort to swing out down the plane line until arms straight and the contact improved.
later on I started having some throwaway and hitting the behind the ball. It felt like I was losing rhythm and was just jabbing at it. What seemed to help this was making sure I felt PP#3 behind the shaft and PP#1. Then I just thought of driving the bent wrist and PP#3 to the ball.
So It seems must remeber to:
1) feel the PP's in my hand
2) don't quit on the stroke and give it a good 3d pop as Lynn says
3) don't swing across my body to the left, it leads to an open clubface.
So It seems must remeber to:
1) feel the PP's in my hand
2) don't quit on the stroke and give it a good 3d pop as Lynn says
3) don't swing across my body to the left, it leads to an open clubface.
Does this sound right??
thanks to all
Joe
Sounds like you're on a good path, although I think I would start incorporating some acquired motion as a way to 'advance to the next level.'
Feels are subjective. One feel that may work for me may be hazardous for you and vice versa. I was out on the range after a round today and something weird happened today. I actually hit the ball the best I've hit it the last 3 days (and for the year for that matter), but when I got on the range after the round I started hitting it worse. The prior 2 days I would get on the course and start 'leaking oil' on the last 3 holes or so and then I would go back to the range after the round and hit it really really great.
But once I started to lose it today on the range, just go back to basic motion, then acquired motion. Now, I'm armed with better knowledge of what swing feels work for me, so the cure was more easily obtained.
While the feels are subjective, many time golfers experience similar problems. I still have some 'over the top' tendencies when I concentrate on trying to keep a FLW at impact. I think Lynn's 'Holies and Poleies' video talks about a great way to cure that.
Thanks Richie, I follow you blog daily. I try to get my basic motion looking like you flying wedge drill but a shorter motion.
My main culprit is throwaway, I am so hoping TGM can help me with that. The ingrained buliding blocks of flat left wrist and bent right. When you have flipped your whole life it's so tough to get that out of your muscle memory.
I could hit the impact bag or Ben's tire 50 times and do it right, still that full swing I would lose my flying wedges and my impact alignments. So, I am basically having to re-learn impact while still playing rounds at the same time with friends.
I have always been a good chipper with forward shaft lean and ball first contatc. It's just trying to find that light of when the right arm gets parallel or higher and trying to get back to impact with the proper angles. I must make sure the pivot is sound as well. I am now using Ben Doyle's setup routine and setting up with right forearm as close to on plane as I can. Then I try to fan that right arm and just turn.
When I think hard about aiming point, hands forward, compress down in a full swing I hit some nasty flying slices out to the right. It seems the more forward my hands are, the more open the clubface. I think this it due to a poor pivot and just becoming armsy and lunging down at the ball.
Oh, to be able to take a forward divot in a full swing and not just flip and pick it sky high and lose distance...It's the bain of my existence!!!
My main culprit is throwaway, I am so hoping TGM can help me with that. The ingrained buliding blocks of flat left wrist and bent right. When you have flipped your whole life it's so tough to get that out of your muscle memory.
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Oh, to be able to take a forward divot in a full swing and not just flip and pick it sky high and lose distance...It's the bain of my existence!!!
The good news is that it can be straightened out. Here's some progress I've made, with the top pic being less than a month ago (it may be hard to see since it has a black graphite shaft, but if you look closely you can see the club shaft going down by my left foot with a flip action of the wrists)
Now here's an impact position I taped on Tuesday.
So, don't give up hope. I played with a flip for 20 years. I'm not some golfing genius by any stretch.
One of the brilliant parts of Homer Kelley's work is the drills give the golfers the correct mechanics and then let the golfer come up with their own subjective feel.
Once I understood that, my swing and game improved. In fact, I believe I looked like the top pic last week. Once you get it, you will 'own it' and probably laugh at really how simple and easy it is. Then curse the fact that you wish you were doing this all along.
Just keep doing the drills, with basic motion first, then acquired, then full motion and concentrate on feel and that will be the gateway to golf swing nirvana.
Jack, it looks good. Maybe a tad more bend at the Hips to keep them a little more behind you and to put a little more bend in your right arm at impact. Then, change your name to Ben.
Problem is I cannot find any of those white caps to fit my gigantic cranium.
I played the other Saturday with my old man and a friend and as my friend was about to hit he said 'heads up!' and my old man told him not to bother yelling that because if it hit me in the head it would probably just plug.
Of course, I don't what the ruling is on an embedded lie from the skull.
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