Thanks OB,I totally agree with your 3D concept,I played today and generally compressed the ball well,for the most part.
I have to "fess-up",I hit 2 of those shots we dont speak of,s....s,but at least I understand what took place,simply did not full uncocking left hand,I feel I actually let my fingers on my R/hand come into play...flipped...I think it is down to discipline...cheers
Perhaps researching the "Throws" will help the Throwaway problem. Similarly named things but actually very different and delightfully mutually exclusive to some extent.
10-20-E The Swingers left wrist Throw. By actively throwing down plane any horizontal hand motion or "throwaway" is highly unlikely. Also 10-20-B Hitters Right arm throw.
Let the right shoulder take the power package down plane as per usual in Startdown ensuring that you dont run out of right arm and then trigger the power packages release of its accumulated power with a Throw of some sort. Early or later throw (trigger) for various shots, trajectories, power etc. No Throwaway as its hard to "hammer" and flip at the same time. It seems like a throw would encourage an early release but on film you'd be surprised by how late it can be despite the way it feels. Oh and man do you go down, way on down to where the music plays as Elvis would say.
This component may be the main difference between Hitting and Swinging for me anyways.
The Wrist Throw automatically Triggers the Release of the #3 Accumulator. If the Right Palm faces the Plane at Release and the Right Wrist is Bent and Level, then Straightening the Right Elbow will Force the Left Arm to Roll. Centrifugal Force Uncocks the Left Wrist and Straightens the Right Elbow. So, it's Automatic if one can achieve the Geometry of the Right Palm Facing the Plane at Release. Definite Pitched Elbow.
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10-20-E WRIST THROW Here, the Right Hand remains palm-up to the Plane during the Uncocking of the Left Wrist to produce a Sequenced Release per 2-G and 4-D-0. Especially compatible with Swinging. See 6-H-0-F.
By deliberately initiating the Wrist Roll at any point before reaching the end of the Delivery Path Line, the Non-Automatic version can be produced.
To deliberately initiate the Wrist Roll at any point before reaching the End of the Delivery Path Line, one Flattens the Left Wrist from it's Bent Condition. A simple Bump of the Left Wrist toward Arched Rolls the Clubface. Thus, Rolling the Clubface no longer depends on the Straightening Right Elbow.
Note: Without using a Wrist Throw Procedure, all Swingers must use a Non-Automatic Roll. That means they must deliberately bump the Left Wrist before reaching the End of the Delivery Line.
The Wrist Throw automatically Triggers the Release of the #3 Accumulator. If the Right Palm faces the Plane at Release and the Right Wrist is Bent and Level, then Straightening the Right Elbow will Force the Left Arm to Roll. Centrifugal Force Uncocks the Left Wrist and Straightens the Right Elbow. So, it's Automatic if one can achieve the Geometry of the Right Palm Facing the Plane at Release. Definite Pitched Elbow.
To deliberately initiate the Wrist Roll at any point before reaching the End of the Delivery Path Line, one Flattens the Left Wrist from it's Bent Condition. A simple Bump of the Left Wrist toward Arched Rolls the Clubface. Thus, Rolling the Clubface no longer depends on the Straightening Right Elbow.
Note: Without using a Wrist Throw Procedure, all Swingers must use a Non-Automatic Roll. That means they must deliberately bump the Left Wrist before reaching the End of the Delivery Line.
Im just a tad confused here,where does the "BENT'L /wrist come from,I am lways flat L/wrist,at least I hope I am.
As for the left arm rotation,I am still having a battle finding a "feel"that reminds my body to rotate my upper arm from shoulder-NOT elbow as this is a point that is breaking my swing down from time to time.
It doesnt matter whether or not my R/ forearm pushes to both arms straight,that can be done with L/forearm roll or upper arm roll (sorry roll should read rotate)but one or the other is causing a faulty stroke.
I hope you can follow my description.....cheers
Im just a tad confused here,where does the "BENT'L /wrist come from,I am lways flat L/wrist,at least I hope I am.
As a Flat Left Wrist Swinger you cannot Roll on Plane unless you use a Wrist Throw to initiate Release. On short Strokes like Chips and Short Pitches you can slightly arch your Left Wrist at the End of your Backstroke.
Originally Posted by brownman
As for the left arm rotation,I am still having a battle finding a "feel"that reminds my body to rotate my upper arm from shoulder-NOT elbow as this is a point that is breaking my swing down from time to time.
That's because it's not something you should Try to do, it's something that happens as a result of Alignments. Use 10-2-B Grip, a Power Package with a Pitched Right Elbow, Straight Line Delivery Path and Wrist Throw. It will Roll.
Your Right Elbow needs to get closer to your Belt Buckel while your right palm is still facing up and you begin to Uncock as your Right Palm is Facing Up. This Alignment will Snap Roll the #3 Accumulator as the Right Elbow Straightens. It has no choice. You will feel an underhand Pitch motion.
Originally Posted by brownman
It doesnt matter whether or not my R/ forearm pushes to both arms straight,that can be done with L/forearm roll or upper arm roll (sorry roll should read rotate)but one or the other is causing a faulty stroke.
I hope you can follow my description.....cheers
Don't Confuse Roll with Hinging.
Hinging occurs when the Left Wrist is Flat before, during and After Impact. You're Aligned to produce an Angled Hinge. You want to Align Components in such a way to produce a Horizontal Hinge (Full Roll - See Above)
Thanks for help Daryl,I will take time to read through the yellow bible armed with your advice....I will let you know how its progressing...thanks again
Daryl,and OBleft.
Good news on my journey to swingland,I feel so much more at home with the wrist throw.Now Im getting R/elbow into "pitch " position with R/palm up.But Im now understanding more about my alignments and how it all unfolds down into the the back of the ball,all still on plane.
Once it all started to come together it feels so "natural" for my R/elbow to get nearer to belt buckle and the resulting shots are begining to look,feel and sound like a golf shot
Today,I found myself being able to practice 3 forms,1...swinging.2...hitting.3...single plane the latter just for fun.As for the the distance difference between hit and swing,very minimal,what I did find was mainly a difference in height between H & Swinging.
I might have been slow learning the swingers pattern but along the way I have learned a lot more about lever alighnments...Cheers BM
Its all about the right elbow's position, to my mind. That is why Homer used it, the right elbow, to define the various strokes. PItch , Punch, Push etc. The elbows position promotes the corresponding hand, wrist alignments. Pitch elbow begets a early left wrist cocking via the bent right elbow and a delayed release for instance.
Want to Float Load? Get a Pitch elbow in transition.
By the way, since you are an old hitter type, Pitch ish elbow does not mean that you cant use a right arm throw.
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