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Old 07-17-2009, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog View Post


Selection of right forearms from release to follow through.

Whilst there may be debate as to the physics of an on plane right forearm (ie. can it really help resist deceleration at impact as HK states ...another thread)...there seems to be ALIGNMENT benefits from having a driven forearm through impact...Donald and Dougherty seem to have little drive through impact...all release...early crossover of forearms...clubface looks like it needs to be "timed" rather than driven...their right elbow straighten really quickly after impact IMO.
Great thread golfbulldog,

One observation after viewing these videos in slo-mo many times is that after the Right Elbow is Driven to Release, whether On-Plane or not; most of the golfers tend to freeze it at that location through the Release interval. Then the Right Elbow is carried by the Turning Pivot to Impact as the Right Forearm unfolds.

I think that this is necessary if one swings by Unfolding or Straightening the Right Arm from the Top to Impact. This is what a Non-Structured Power Package does. The Right Elbow becomes glued to the Side or in front of the Right Hip and becomes the Center of the Clubhead Radius. An Industry is Built on this. It's called the PGA. Golfers all around the World are making a Great living swinging that way.

Homer would call this a "Right Arm Throw" or a "Hand Throw" if it remained a Left Arm Swing. But why didn't he name this ever-present "Power Package Action". Why does he simply wash over it by naming the Pattern "Right Arm Swinging"? He said it was Valid.

I think we have to ask ourselves, "ought, should, and 'is-it-possible' that the Right Elbow be Driven to an On-Plane location and then remain Driving Down, forward and out simultaneously (meaning: On-Plane) through Impact and to both Arms Straight?"
  1. Ought one do it? (Is it Viable? Repeatable? Controllable? Is it Better?) On one Hand we have Homer Kelley, on the other we have the PGA.
  2. Should one do it? (is there a better way? Can it be learned ?)
  3. How does one do it? That's the easy question to answer. (Extensor Action to Structure the Power Package)

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Old 07-17-2009, 10:04 AM
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Or could it be elbow plane vs. turned shoulder? or pivot controlled hands through impact vs. hands controlled pivot?
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Old 07-17-2009, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mb6606 View Post
Or could it be elbow plane vs. turned shoulder? or pivot controlled hands through impact vs. hands controlled pivot?
I wondered about that too...just not sure though...

Gary Player discussing Tiger's elbow at impact sort of comes into this IMO:



Alot of the commentators really rate Allenby for ball-striking and his forearm definitely looks different to many other players.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog View Post
I wondered about that too...just not sure though...

Gary Player discussing Tiger's elbow at impact sort of comes into this IMO:



Alot of the commentators really rate Allenby for ball-striking and his forearm definitely looks different to many other players.
Appleby is one of the few if not the only one with the right forearm on plane. Hogan was on plane, Tiger gets close, some recent swings from Sean O'Hair are close.

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Old 07-18-2009, 04:26 AM
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Daryl, I think that the players who retain a sense of right forearm drive after release are the ones who usually have some pivot left in them at that stage...

I am making a comparison of Garcia and Ellebye - 2 guys who retain alot of accumulator lag until hands are waist high on the downswing...but they deal with the lag very differently through release to both arms straight.

Garcia has a big pivot move from hands at waist level to shaft horizontal to the ground...drives his forearm into great position...and he still has a bit of pivot left through impact...

Ellebye has smaller pivot move throughout the whole equivalent period...almost gets pivot frost it is so frozen...

Will post it when youtube has finished cooking it!

Would value any thoughts on the differences, thanks.
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Old 07-18-2009, 04:49 AM
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Garcia and Ellebye compared (sorry had no face on driver sequence for Sergio)

Garcia release
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Old 07-18-2009, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog View Post
Garcia and Ellebye compared (sorry had no face on driver sequence for Sergio)

Garcia release
Wow. I haven't seen that much "Throwaway" since Garbage Day after a moving Sale. They "Steer" so much they should have been Taxi Drivers.

Maybe Homer was wrong. Maybe just grip it and rip it and hit enough Balls.
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