I probably am misunderstanding the concepts put forth in this thread but....
I struggle many times getting axis tilt at impact, I dont have a steep shoulder turn, there are two ways that can help me.
1. is to make my normal swing but with a braced tilt built into my setup, head is clearly back, then I just think rotate.
2. take a more traditional setup per TGM. When I get to the top though I really think throw the club with my right arm, kind of like a "whip" or like skipping a stone. To do this you get into a pitch elbow with axis tilt. Is this the same "wrist throw"? I see no loss in distance, if anything I see an increase in height and carry.
Throws alone don't make a swing. Throws don't power a swing.
Throws release the stored potential of the Power Package Accumulators.
The Shoulder throw evenly empties the Accumulators during the Downstroke. But it also launches the Power Package from the Top without much chance of anymore acceleration than what the launch produced.
The Wrist Throw is more of an explosive release. It uses a Shoulder Throw at Release. Almost instantaneous release of all accumulators.
The Ball travels farther when the Accumulators are Released Close together. 1,2,3 at Release. Vs. #1 at the Top, #2 at Release, #3 just before Impact.
reading these quotes,
so the shoulder/wrist throw helps release these closer together and should aid in getting more power?
Yes.
When the Shoulder Throw occurs at Release rather than the Top of the Swing, and using it to throw the Right Wrist will use the available power of the Pivot thrusting the Power Package into Release.
Using a Shoulder throw at the Top of the Swing will not use all of the available power.
Quote:
2-M-2 POWER REGULATION Clubhead Lag Pressure Point pressure (6-C) is the Power Regulator. It meters out Power by sensing Clubhead Acceleration Rate and Direction. That is:
To vary the Effective Clubhead Mass, vary
1. The Acceleration Rate (Lag Pressure 7-11)
2. The Swing Radius (length of the Primary Lever Assembly 6-B-0)
To vary Clubhead Speed, vary
3. Acceleration Time (Length of the Stroke 10-21)
4. The Release Interval (Centrifugal Reaction 6-N-0)
So it is optional to use any one or any combination of the four alternatives. Also study 12-0 in this connection.
With "Throws", it's more important where/when the Throw occurs, which relates to #4 above: the Release Interval. The Shorter the Release Interval, the faster the Centrifugal Reaction. Secondary Lever.
The Hand Throw, Shoulder Throw from the Top, and I'll go so far as to include the Right Arm Throw from the Top, are specialty Procedures and have no place in a Standard Stroke Pattern. I'll be criticized for saying that, but whatever. The Fact of "Golf Life" is that as soon as the Left Arm moves away from the chest (not down), release begins.
Throws alone don't make a swing. Throws don't power a swing.
Throws release the stored potential of the Power Package Accumulators.
The Shoulder throw evenly empties the Accumulators during the Downstroke. But it also launches the Power Package from the Top without much chance of anymore acceleration than what the launch produced.
The Wrist Throw is more of an explosive release. It uses a Shoulder Throw at Release. Almost instantaneous release of all accumulators.
Originally Posted by Daryl
Yes.
When the Shoulder Throw occurs at Release rather than the Top of the Swing, and using it to throw the Right Wrist will use the available power of the Pivot thrusting the Power Package into Release.
Using a Shoulder throw at the Top of the Swing will not use all of the available power.
what do you think of using this procedure as a swinger? Advisable, or barking up the wrong tree?
what do you think of using this procedure as a swinger? Advisable, or barking up the wrong tree?
Swingers:
The Shoulder Throw occurs at Release, and using it to throw the Right Wrist will use the available power of the Pivot thrusting the Power Package into Release.
Learn Hip Action. Learn how the Hips can Throw the Right Shoulder at Release. It will feel like you're taking your Right Shoulder a very long way down the Plane until release occurs seemingly automatically. Your Left Arm will only move a few inches before Impact which means that it's still accelerating away from the chest toward both arms straight. The Right Elbow is straightening but still has a lot of bend at Impact. Therefore, the Hands are still 12" to the Right of your Belt Buckle at Impact. The Power Package is Accelerating through Impact till both arms straight.
Swingers:
The Shoulder Throw occurs at Release, and using it to throw the Right Wrist will use the available power of the Pivot thrusting the Power Package into Release.
Learn Hip Action. Learn how the Hips can Throw the Right Shoulder at Release. It will feel like you're taking your Right Shoulder a very long way down the Plane until release occurs seemingly automatically. Your Left Arm will only move a few inches before Impact which means that it's still accelerating away from the chest toward both arms straight. The Right Elbow is straightening but still has a lot of bend at Impact. Therefore, the Hands are still 12" to the Right of your Belt Buckle at Impact. The Power Package is Accelerating through Impact till both arms straight.
Hmmmm...I went to the TGM website...didn't see any authorized instructors with the first name Daryl from Illinois. What AI did you work with that taught you how to execute the triggers? I studied with an AI who spent a lot of time with Homer and his explanation of how to execute the triggers does not come close to your interpretation. Interesting!!!
Swingers:
The Shoulder Throw occurs at Release, and using it to throw the Right Wrist will use the available power of the Pivot thrusting the Power Package into Release.
Learn Hip Action. Learn how the Hips can Throw the Right Shoulder at Release. It will feel like you're taking your Right Shoulder a very long way down the Plane until release occurs seemingly automatically. Your Left Arm will only move a few inches before Impact which means that it's still accelerating away from the chest toward both arms straight. The Right Elbow is straightening but still has a lot of bend at Impact. Therefore, the Hands are still 12" to the Right of your Belt Buckle at Impact. The Power Package is Accelerating through Impact till both arms straight.
This is a video on hip movement, Steve Bishop is a local teacher in my area and he did this video talking about the hips and their movement in leading the right shoulder.
Is this anything close to what you are talking about?
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