Are they really on the elbow plane or appearing to be so because they drop their heads/torso (Tiger) on the downswing?
Hmmm. I'd say the player who establishes his Impact Alignments at Fix (his RFFW on the Shaft Plane) makes the adjustments required that you refer to above, bobs, waist bend, knee bend, skull line etc prior to Startup. Players who address the ball with their Right Elbows above the Shaft Plane must make these adjustments during the swing and suffer from the inconsistencies that result.
But to answer your question directly, Id say they are only on an Elbow Plane if their Elbow is on the Shaft Plane. Most pros do bob to achieve this impact alignment having addressed the ball with their right elbow above the Shaft Plane, Lie Angle.
I am always very confused about the plane and zero shifting.
If I address with the right forearm on plane with the shaft, with bent elbow, then just bend and fan the right elbow up and then just pushing down with #1 pressure point, am I zero shift with turned shoulder plan (since is on plane at address)? or am I at the elbow plane? Appreciate your help.
I am always very confused about the plane and zero shifting.
If I address with the right forearm on plane with the shaft, with bent elbow, then just bend and fan the right elbow up and then just pushing down with #1 pressure point, am I zero shift with turned shoulder plan (since is on plane at address)? or am I at the elbow plane? Appreciate your help.
Elbow Plane. If the Right Forearm is On the Swing Plane at Release and In-Line with the Clubshaft, then you are swinging on the Elbow Plane.
All Swinging should have an On-Plane Forearm at Impact (Right Forearm is On the Swing Plane at Impact). At Release, the Right Forearm should at least be On Plane, at 90 degrees, to the Left Arm Wedge; Flying Wedge geometry.
Thanks, Daryl, I am hitting, am I zero shift as right forarm on plane at address and just bring it back and push it down. Does zero shift must be for Turned Shoulder Plane?
Thanks, Daryl, I am hitting, am I zero shift as right forarm on plane at address and just bring it back and push it down. Does zero shift must be for Turned Shoulder Plane?
If you bring it back and up and then take the hands straight to the plane line without going up or down on the way, with the left arm wedge intact, then you're using a Zero Shift on the downswing. Zero Shift means no plane shift.