Thanks Daryl,no,Im not sure exactly whats happening,its a feeling that Im driving down deep with the R/wrist going down deeper into the ground,how can I say,its a feeling that im driving my R/forearm down to an aiming point except I dont have A/point in my minds eye,perhaps another way of looking at it is ...my R wrist is assisting my FLW without my L/wrist doing anything specific....hard to follow eh...Im sorry its the only I can explain it...cheers