so right now in my messed up swing at the top I have rotated my palm counter-clockwise so its facing the sky, thus shut position (clockwise start, counterclockwise to finish).
If I start the backswing with the same clockwise rotation, but keep that rotation all the way to the top, the palm (or say the word Yoda) is facing my caddie view camera, or the ball, or whatever the proper term is, either way 90 degrees to sky up, correct (though with a bent right wrist I guess it is always going to be up towards the sky a little bit)? It feels very cuppy but I can see the top of the club is not shut anymore. Then the club on the downswing keeps that same relationship (whoh that feels weird), which sure feels really open to me (duh, I have been shut for years) and at the last second the club is rolling into the horizontal hinge. It feels so weird, because I rolled the other way before (doh, think thats what you said, I rolled to a vertical hinge motion from the shut position).
I hope this makes some sense, I may do a short video tonight with some questions, if you dont mind?
Lets make sure we're talking about the same thing.
If your video camera is in a down the line view, and if you do a Pitch shot (about half way) then the back of your wrist is facing the camera stand where it touches the ground and the word Yoda is facing your face. You can read the word "Yoda". "Y" is at the bottom and "A" is at the Top. At this point in your swing, if you used the right forearm take-away, your shoulders have moved and your right forearm is about parallel to the ground.
So the wrist, the inside, where you would buckle your watch if you wore one on your right wrist, would always face your face.
Lets make sure we're talking about the same thing.
If your video camera is in a down the line view, and if you do a Pitch shot (about half way) then the back of your wrist is facing the camera and the word Yoda is facing the target. At this point in your swing, if you used the right forearm take-away, your shoulders have moved and your right forearm is about parallel to the ground.
I was thinking the camera from the face on view. I understand the position you are talking about though halfway back.
Ball's starting left because the face is shut at the top. Plus your head is back. But mainly the face is shut. So open the face some at address. Look at your left wrist . . . you may want do some hammering to see how the left wrist cocks with the grip you got. You have an anatomically flat left wrist at the top which is OK however the face is shut. So you can open the face some or cock your left wrist some where you get some bend.
Now plenty of cats play nice golf with a shut face Duval . . . Trevino . . . but you are pretty much dependent on getting the right amount of shaft lean to keep that face OPEN . . Otherwise the face is gonna pull the ball.
Ok . . . just looked at the face on . . . I'd say you either need to roll that left hand counter clockwise some or you need to feel like you are bending the heck out of your left wrist at the top.
Bent vs. Flat with your grip
That bent one probably gives you more insurance on shaft lean . . . if you got the buck shut face you'd BETTER get the lean or that ball starts left.
Couples . . . less leany
Buck . . . gotta lean it to get the face open enough not to start it left of left.
Ball's starting left because the face is shut at the top. Plus your head is back. But mainly the face is shut. So open the face some at address. Look at your left wrist . . . you may want do some hammering to see how the left wrist cocks with the grip you got. You have an anatomically flat left wrist at the top which is OK however the face is shut. So you can open the face some or cock your left wrist some where you get some bend.
Now plenty of cats play nice golf with a shut face Duval . . . Trevino . . . but you are pretty much dependent on getting the right amount of shaft lean to keep that face OPEN . . Otherwise the face is gonna pull the ball.
Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Ok . . . just looked at the face on . . . I'd say you either need to roll that left hand counter clockwise some or you need to feel like you are bending the heck out of your left wrist at the top.
Bent vs. Flat with your grip
That bent one probably gives you more insurance on shaft lean . . . if you got the buck shut face you'd BETTER get the lean or that ball starts left.
Couples . . . less leany
Buck . . . gotta lean it to get the face open enough not to start it left of left.
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