Learning to Hit

[Daryti]

Thanks a million for all the comments.

I have tried different set up and read the thread, watch youtube etc. The reason I have the current setup is I thought (obvious not correct and misconcept!):

1. to have no shift, therefore more simple and consistence, try to locate at the shoulder turned plan at setup.
2. ball flight usually push right if not straight.
3. did try setting up with more right arm bent and tilt (by shifting the hip therefore keeping the shoulder square), but usually taking the club too inside and hitting behind, to the right and low ball flight (probably wrong with my fanning) and becasue thinking to achieve a shoulder turned plane for hitter and instead of elbow plane, and Norman set up on youtube therefore becoming current set up

Does setting up with more tilt make the backswing more around and inside? Clubface usually closed at the top is that ok? How can you determine the correct bent and setup?

Thanks again.

[gmbtempe]

More tilt is likely going to take the club inside, so would having your weight left at setup (not that you do that just saying).

Steve Elkington is working on a little bit of a Moe Norman setup and swing, found a video on Youtube breaking it down...its interesting given how much Elk has worked with Ben Doyle.

[Daryti]

I will try the new set up in the driving range. But how can you achieve a zero shift as recommended in the book using an elbow plane? And at impact fix as address for hitting, should the left arm and the club be in a straight line?

[KevCarter]

Hi Danny,

Left arm and shaft should not be in a straight line. Take another look at the picture of Brian Gay, which I believe to be YODA's ideal.

Think of zero shift as a "feel" not a mechanically perfect requirement. I hope you don't mind me continuing to use pictures of Brian, but I think they are the model. These are pretty good depictions of a very slight shift in planes that would "feel" to me as zero shifting.

Kevin

[siksta]

Where is that Hong Kong?

[gmbtempe]

Hi Danny,

Left arm and shaft should not be in a straight line. Take another look at the picture of Brian Gay, which I believe to be YODA's ideal.

Think of zero shift as a "feel" not a mechanically perfect requirement. I hope you don't mind me continuing to use pictures of Brian, but I think they are the model. These are pretty good depictions of a very slight shift in planes that would "feel" to me as zero shifting.

Kevin

great pictures there....BG makes an ever so slight shift to the turned shoulder plane, right?

It seems to me to be a very simple procedure to setup right forearm on plane as he has and swing around that plane line as Mo Norman did. The process of shifting would be mostly eliminated and then you just trace the target base line.....sounds like a new pattern for me to play around with

[KevCarter]

great pictures there....BG makes an ever so slight shift to the turned shoulder plane, right?

It seems to me to be a very simple procedure to setup right forearm on plane as he has and swing around that plane line as Mo Norman did. The process of shifting would be mostly eliminated and then you just trace the target base line.....sounds like a new pattern for me to play around with

You aren't that far off!

Kevin

[Daryti]

Thanks for the clearance, I will practice the new setup and report later the progress, for me may take very long .

This is in Taipei.

[innercityteacher]

Kevin, Moe Norman is an attractive model for me (though I have some doubts about his descendants in teaching) due to the low wear and tear on my football battered body!

Mr. Manzella did a nice analysis of that swing although he did not really make the TGM methods clear. Is that something you or another TGM instructor might offer a general guide to esp. for those of us with an artificial hip and metal rod in my front leg.

If a guy who survived a car accident could win 59 tournaments using that swing and shoot a few 59's, I might be able to someday win our "C" flight and senior tournament!

Patrick

You aren't that far off!

Kevin