Two cheeks for sure and interesting given that Toms and Trevino are generally considered to be Thrusters.
But what do you see D?
I see all these guys releasing into the ball. Do you see the Hips still pulling the shoulders here? They're open for sure, they havent been overtaken by the Shoulders yet. But Id say their Sequence has long since passed the Hip firing , active turning, hip work period.
If Hip work is critical to power then how do we explain guys that can hit it 280 off their knees? Take away their Arms in some way and youd have placed a serious restriction on their power though I bet. Who would hit it further a guy off his knees or a guy on his feet but with his arms strapped to his body? Homer had Zone 2 as Power right?
What are we supposed to be talking about again? Oh yah, how far ahead do the Hips need to be? Must they be? Why? What do those things do anyways? Im thinking that they provide the initial spin to the flywheel.
Me personally Ive got a lazy set of Hips. Lynn thinks its residual from my hockey slap shot, which makes a ton of sense to me. He kind of blew me away with that insight actually. You cant spin the hips when taking a slap shot , your loaded edges wont allow it, its all shoulders and arms , hitting across your body. And interestingly often accompanied with a Greg Norman like backward right foot drag.
I completely agree again. Look at the Right Shoulders in the Pics above. They are all On-plane at Impact. I doubt that you'll find a Professional Golfer that doesn't have an On-Plane Right Shoulder at Impact.
The Pivot moves to keep the Right Shoulder and #3 PP On-plane. Accumulators generate Power.
Hip Action driving the Right Shoulder Downplane is a Power Package Alignment issue. At Impact, it would be easier if the Right Shoulder, Right Elbow and #3 Pressure Point were all On-Plane.
When Hip Action Stops, the Right Shoulder moves off plane; Horizontal, above Plane.
Hip Motion allows the Shoulders to turn. Hip Action directs them by Driving the Right Shoulder On-Plane, Down-Plane.
Cough, Cough.....
If I may rudely interrupt..
Way back at post #1 in this thread I was trying to riddle the use of VJ's dowel drill which he calls "high School Hips".. "we" may have concluded that failure of his test ain't always and for everyone BAD. But I do fail the test and I do think it is a "MESS-UP" that I should try and change. BUT, I do fear it may be a pyrrhic victory.
Cough, Cough.....
If I may rudely interrupt..
Way back at post #1 in this thread I was trying to riddle the use of VJ's dowel drill which he calls "high School Hips".. "we" may have concluded that failure of his test ain't always and for everyone BAD. But I do fail the test and I do think it is a "MESS-UP" that I should try and change. BUT, I do fear it may be a pyrrhic victory.
The Bear again.
I think the Drill will bring instant improvement. It forces you to keep the Hips from sliding too far left and especially forward. The Pivot should maintain its posture. Losing waist/hip bend (Standing up) during the down-stroke forces the right shoulder to flatten and go off plane.
You want Hula-Hula flexibility, not hula hoop Hips. I think the Ben Doyle Drill teaches all of it.
Hi MB66. The amount of Hip Slide needed to keep the Right Shoulder On plane differs. I don't know about the Turn part of it. Great question.
Would the elbow plan swinger need greater hip rotation through impact than the TSP???
Not D but I play him on TV.
Im thinking an Elbow Plane guy probably has a really strong sense of turning, Pivoting through the shot, a strong sense for the #4 pp , he's Arc of Approach, Wheel Rim, maybe has a feel for some rolling of #3 angle too. So yeah, Hip turn and feel for sure Id say. One Hip turn though, not two firings or whatever.
I know there's a really popular teacher who advocates swinging left on the Elbow Plane, a refiring of the hips and using the Angle of Approach but .....arent those kinda mutually exclusive? How do you get your clubhead to go out to right field and swing left at the same time? How do you see a wheel track on the elbow plane unless your eyeballs are in your elbow? How do you re fire the Hips? Even if you could re fire them , could they get in front of the Shoulders and start to pull them again?
Sorry for the digression .......Daryl brings back a lot of misty water color memories.
Im guilty of that too. Maybe all us Homerites are to varying degrees? It aint easy.
Such is the price of genius, Daryl. Galileo was tried and found guilty of heresy for things we now consider common knowledge as well. Just like you buddy. I see no difference , he was a Sox fan too. Which in retrospect is maybe why they fried him.
A huge Hawks fan, he is said to have worn a Makita jersey to his inquisition. Gotta love the guy for that.
Tell me, OB, would they, could they? Or, has time re-written every line? You know, it don't come easy. But you've got to pay your dues if you want to sing the blues.
Babs, was a great singer despite her politics, IMHO. Ringo was more my speed.
Pat
Originally Posted by O.B.Left
Im guilty of that too. Maybe all us Homerites are to varying degrees? It aint easy.
Such is the price of genius, Daryl. Galileo was tried and found guilty of heresy for things we now consider common knowledge as well. Just like you buddy. I see no difference , he was a Sox fan too. Which in retrospect is maybe why they fried him.
A huge Hawks fan, he is said to have worn a Makita jersey to his inquisition. Gotta love the guy for that.
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