The #4 Accumulator is Loaded as the Right Elbow Bends and the Left Arm is carried across the Chest. The load location is where the left arm pushes against the chest. On a Turned Shoulder Plane, the #3 PP, #2 PP and Right Shoulder are ON PLANE. As the Downstroke begins, the #3 PP, #2 PP and Right Shoulder remain ON PLANE. The Pressure (Force) from the #4 Pressure Point is ON PLANE. As the Shoulder Turn subsides, this Pressure Blasts the Left Arm away from the Chest and the #2 & 3 Pressure Points are Blasted toward the Aiming Point and CF begins to Pull on the Clubhead Sweet-spot (Throwout).
So, the Unloading Force of the #4 PP is ON PLANE with the Right Shoulder and #2 & 3 Pressure Points.
The #4 Accumulator Load, is fully spent when the Right Arm is fully Straight (both arms straight). How far past Impact the Follow Through ends is a matter of Shoulder orientation.
When on the ELBOW Plane, things are very different. Rather than the #2 & 3 Pressure Points and Right Shoulder moving On Plane, they drop vertically toward a point somewhere between the feet and the plane line. This is not On Plane. This vertical drop lowers the Hands to the Elbow Plane. The Left Arm does not move Away from the Chest.
For Elbow Plane Swingers, the #4 Pressure Point becomes disengaged during the initial Vertical Drop from the end of the Backstroke undoing its potential PRIOR TO RELEASE. While for TSP Swingers, the Left Arm Blasting Off of the Chest is the Beginning of Release and adds an almost unmeasurable amount of Power.
Hitting a 7 iron 190 yards is a pretty simple undertaking and a great test to evaluate the power and "How Well you use the #4 Pressure Point". The 7 iron is short enough to accelerate very fast and has enough loft to trim to a respectable 6 iron and COAM isn't a problem. The Driver , on the other hand, is very long and the COAM effect requires an enormous amount of muscle or Power Package support to overcome.
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The Clubhead “overtaking” speed is governed by the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum whereby the increased Mass resulting from any extension of the Swing Radius decelerates the hands and unless they are supported by Power Package Thrust (6-B-1) or Throw Out Action (2-K), can result in great loss of Clubhead Speed.
Isn't the left arm always pointing below plane? How can I get the right forearm on plane at impact without it being an elbow plane at that time? What plane are we on at follow through? Is the "plane" we are on only defined where we start down from? Is it the one we shift to? Is it definable after release? If I shift planes am I just moving to a new "top" position? Like "Happy Gilmore"? When #4 has the left arm on the chest and I use axis tilt won't I launch my inert left arm into center field? Are there some alignments and transitions that go beyond definition? Is there always some wobble and throw away because we are dealing with wrists and elbows and shoulders that have limitations? And we have strict "rules" for their alignment at all times? Does 1-L have both a primary and secondary lever assembly? If the primary lever assembly is maintained on plane can the secondary lever asembly be applied? Can it also maintain the shaft on plane? Can the left shoulder ever be "on plane"? These thoughts can drive one crazy? Or do they have answers?
The Bear
Last edited by HungryBear : 07-05-2010 at 08:26 AM.
How can I get the right forearm on plane at impact without it being an elbow plane at that time?
Swing on the TSP. If the Elbow and #3 PP are on plane, then the Right Forearm is on plane.
What plane are we on at follow through?
The Same as the one used for Impact.
Is the "plane" we are on only defined where we start down from? Is it the one we shift to? Is it definable after release? If I shift planes am I just moving to a new "top" position? Like "Happy Gilmore"?
The Impact Plane is where you should focus. What is the Angle of Inclination of the Golf Clubs Sweet-spot at Impact? Try to maintain the same Angle throughout the Swing.
When #4 has the left arm on the chest and I use axis tilt won't I launch my inert left arm into center field?
If the #4 Pressure is on Plane then the #3 Pressure Point will be Launched On Plane.
Are there some alignments and transitions that go beyond definition?
No. No mystery.
Is there always some wobble and throw away because we are dealing with wrists and elbows and shoulders that have limitations?
No. EA eliminates wobble and there is no Throw-away with EA.
And we have strict "rules" for their alignment at all times?
Yes.
Does 1-L have both a primary and secondary lever assembly? If the primary lever assembly is maintained on plane can the secondary lever asembly be applied?
The Primary Lever is the Left Arm and Clubshaft combined. The Secondary Lever is the Clubshaft.
Can it also maintain the shaft on plane?
Yes.
Can the left shoulder ever be "on plane"?
Yes.
These thoughts can drive one crazy? Or do they have answers?
But isn't the TSP defined as a flat back turn? Can't the TSP also be the elbow plane at impact? Then there would be no shift? I can't control both the right shoulder on plane and the left shoulder "plane" so don't we take what we get Re: the left shoulder? Doesn't #4 "slide" down the left side before release? Isn't it just the "right" triangle that lays on the plane. (3 points- right shoulder, #3 pp, sweet spot- form triangle)? Doesn't the left triangle roll or swivel to vertical to the plane through impact? Isn't this mainly a pivot thing? The game is played in front of the torso between the shoulders? Dont the hands practice this so they can direct the moving parts? And, Every time I experiment I have a whole new rhythm thing to get back to? I think my aiming point is not on any imperative line but on its own delivery line that is near the outside of my left toe? Does that sound right?
I can't control both the right shoulder on plane and the left shoulder "plane" so don't we take what we get Re: the left shoulder? Doesn't #4 "slide" down the left side before release?
No. No. and No.
Isn't it just the "right" triangle that lays on the plane. (3 points- right shoulder, #3 pp, sweet spot- form triangle)?
#3 PP, Right Shoulder and the Sweet-Spot of the Clubhead.
Doesn't the left triangle roll or swivel to vertical to the plane through impact?
The Left Wrist should be Level and Vertical.
Isn't this mainly a pivot thing? The game is played in front of the torso between the shoulders? Dont the hands practice this so they can direct the moving parts? And, Every time I experiment I have a whole new rhythm thing to get back to? I think my aiming point is not on any imperative line but on its own delivery line that is near the outside of my left toe? Does that sound right?[/quote]
You're on the Elbow Plane.
Why would you pull the Club and #3 PP straight Down toward the ground from the Top of the Swing, when the Ball is Located on the Plane Line?
Why would you Shift Planes when you don't have to?
I can't control both the right shoulder on plane and the left shoulder "plane" so don't we take what we get Re: the left shoulder? Doesn't #4 "slide" down the left side before release?
No. No. and No.
Looking at mine that is what I do.
Isn't it just the "right" triangle that lays on the plane. (3 points- right shoulder, #3 pp, sweet spot- form triangle)?
#3 PP, Right Shoulder and the Sweet-Spot of the Clubhead.
Doesn't the left triangle roll or swivel to vertical to the plane through impact?
The Left Wrist should be Level and Vertical.
And the wrist fixes the flat side of the triangle??
Isn't this mainly a pivot thing? The game is played in front of the torso between the shoulders? Dont the hands practice this so they can direct the moving parts? And, Every time I experiment I have a whole new rhythm thing to get back to? I think my aiming point is not on any imperative line but on its own delivery line that is near the outside of my left toe? Does that sound right?[/quote]
You're on the Elbow Plane.
At impact, I believe so
Originally Posted by Daryl
Why would you pull the Club and #3 PP straight Down toward the ground from the Top of the Swing, when the Ball is Located on the Plane Line?
Why would you Shift Planes when you don't have to?
I don't. but because the left shoulder moves UP as the right goes DOWN the left wrist is in a level (cocked, level, uncocked) and vertical to the plane at impact.
I try not to. I think that is a optical illusion due to the right forearm pitched out ahead of the right shoulder as it chases down plane.
Is there same good example(s) of only TSP swingers/hitters?
Is there some good example(s) of only elbow plane swingers?
The broblem(s) is/are that:
#3 accumulator is less than adequate with pure TSP, If a swinger releases #4 before impact power package lag goes away, intentional plane shifts become an uncoordinated "gobbeltygook". Three imperatives- the ponderance of not only how to acomplish them but ALSO the consequences, both good and bad, of their succssful/uncessful execution.
Last edited by HungryBear : 07-06-2010 at 08:33 AM.
Watching video there appears to be two ways players plane shift. Drop the hands from the TSP to the Elbow plane (Homer Kelley TGM book Plane shift). Drop the head/torso but still swing on the TSP plane Tiger style plane shift swing from several years ago.
Anyone else agree?
Hybrid Mode
