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Old 07-24-2010, 09:02 AM
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Zone 1 will cause Zone 2 Problems

By moving the head off the ball during the Backstroke, it may remain there.

In the sequence below, #7, the Hips are out of alignment both Forward and front to back resulting in severe Axis Tilt and a Clubhead that rises above the Plane at Impact and Follow-through.

This Faulty Axis Tilt prevents his Left Hip from Turning as much as it needs. This Blocks his right hip from moving forward and forces it out toward the Plane Line too early. This prevents his right shoulder from continuing Down-Plane and Forward.




He may need to do this to get all of the distance he possibly can but imagine what it does to accuracy.

This Faulty Pivot really screws with Low Point, the Right Elbow, Impact Hand Location, Right Shoulder Location and Path, etc, etc.

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As I said, I was hitting the ball from my knees almost as far (and certainly as solidly) as I did while standing, and, in my prime, I consistently finished in the top 10 percent in driving distance while on tour. Don't forget, I was using a persimmon-headed, steel-shafted driver and a wound balata ball, let alone with no feet or legs!

The point here is, that, instead of driving my swing bottom forward and thus creating lag with my feet and legs, I relied on establishing a clear, forward-aiming point well out in front of my ball, and an aggressive forward shoulder and torso hip-turning motion to create the lag in my swing. Think of it this way: Because a club swung from the knees travels on a far more horizontal, or level-to-the-ground, arc than does one swung while standing up, the bottom, or low point, of such a swing also extends considerably more forward of the ball. Because this makes it easy to swing the club downward through and past the golf ball after impact, such a swing facilitates very solid contact as well. Certainly, it takes some time to get used to the initially awkward posture and geometry of hitting balls from the knees, but once done, you can really pound a golf ball that way.

Needless to say, the feet and legs add extra speed to the golf swing; but they become useless if they don't carry the hips and shoulders forward, to sustain the lag through the impact zone. I credit my efficient lag, created from the hips and shoulders, for driving the ball 250 yards, straight down the fairway. That means the feet and legs only had an additional 15 to 20 yards to give…….

The Impact Zone
, Bobbie Clampett, Page 93

Bobby shows some of the same Pivot issues.

Having your head that far back keeps your shoulders that far back too. I bet his head doesn't move when he hits from his knees.



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Old 07-24-2010, 01:02 PM
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I noticed that on Bobby Clampett's actual drive his head swayed back even more. Not an unusual thing for a good player by any means but not necessary to my mind. I wondered if it was a compensation which moved his Left Shoulder back and gave him more time to Release. If thats what it is then you have to wonder if he could accomplish much the same thing without the Sway by just teeing the ball more forward in his stance. Dont get me wrong Id love to have Bobby's swing.

Those long drive guys have 4' long drivers or whatever and tend to Sway back too, I think to give them more time to Release their super long lever. You'll notice how Sadlowski's Sway increases during his Release, frames 5 to 6. There are ballistic, launch angle considerations too for sure, like he is creating an artificial up hill shot.

He's Canadian though and those guys are all kinda nutso, eh?

A Zone 1 compensation for a Snap Release related problem .......Bucket is going to be all over this one, I bet.

On the other hand, the head doesnt necessarily need to be positioned dead center between the feet does it? Isnt it dependent on the shot at hand? If you are in a fairway bunker or chipping or pitching or hitting out of the rough wouldnt you have your head more over your left side? Ive always noticed how Homer positioned his Head a little back of centre in this photo of him at Fix. From this position he wouldnt need to Sway back dynamically during the swing, its pre set, Fixed in a manner in accordance with the shot at hand.


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Old 07-24-2010, 02:53 PM
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Aye OB,

Ya, Ben Doyle does it too. There's no excuse for it.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:35 PM
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Ben taught me to put my head over my right knee at address. Do you have pics of ben at address.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
I noticed that on Bobby Clampett's actual drive his head swayed back even more. Not an unusual thing for a good player by any means but not necessary to my mind. I wondered if it was a compensation which moved his Left Shoulder back and gave him more time to Release. If thats what it is then you have to wonder if he could accomplish much the same thing without the Sway by just teeing the ball more forward in his stance. Dont get me wrong Id love to have Bobby's swing.

Those long drive guys have 4' long drivers or whatever and tend to Sway back too, I think to give them more time to Release their super long lever. You'll notice how Sadlowski's Sway increases during his Release, frames 5 to 6. There are ballistic, launch angle considerations too for sure, like he is creating an artificial up hill shot.

He's Canadian though and those guys are all kinda nutso, eh?

A Zone 1 compensation for a Snap Release related problem .......Bucket is going to be all over this one, I bet.

On the other hand, the head doesnt necessarily need to be positioned dead center between the feet does it? Isnt it dependent on the shot at hand? If you are in a fairway bunker or chipping or pitching or hitting out of the rough wouldnt you have your head more over your left side? Ive always noticed how Homer positioned his Head a little back of centre in this photo of him at Fix. From this position he wouldnt need to Sway back dynamically during the swing, its pre set, Fixed in a manner in accordance with the shot at hand.


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Sadlowski uses a 6.5 degree driver. He creates extra axis tilt so he can hit up on the driver - low spin high launch = long drives. No other way to do it but lean right and it up. JS can carry the ball 365 yds plus I have witnessed it in person.
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Old 07-24-2010, 10:51 PM
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Sadlowski uses a 6.5 degree driver. He creates extra axis tilt so he can hit up on the driver - low spin high launch = long drives. No other way to do it but lean right and it up. JS can carry the ball 365 yds plus I have witnessed it in person.
Yup, know what you mean, honestly , but it's a different game that one.

In TGM terms what you call "extra" Axis Tilt is a Head Sway. Not what you'd want for precision, Mechanically. You wouldnt design a machine that had an axis wobble, it would be imprecise and prone to wear and tear.

Having said that, I do lean back on occasion and let er fly. Its a type of shot.

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