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Old 09-21-2010, 05:57 PM
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I apologize if I appear to be full of questions at the moment but are you talking about the shift towards the target in the downswing that is made?

If so how can this be combated, and would this be a possible cause for flipping at the ball or are the two things separate entities?
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:01 PM
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Hi nolimit,

A pretty good motion you've got going there. It is difficult to se how well you strike the ball on the you tube format though. For what it's worth it doesn't look like a "proper" flip to me.

The thing that I noticed is that you are leaning away from your target line in the back swing. It looks like you're turning yourself out of the swing plane going back. If you just let go from the there you're set to spin your shoulders towards left field. I believe you need a little doze of Stack'n Tilt medisin.

There's an upfront picture of Tiger 1/3 down in this article: http://www.aroundhawaii.com/lifestyl...eral-bend.html

Look how Tiger balances his turn with leaning into the shot. Then have a look at your position at the top and compare with your own position. It is very different. In TGM language you need more hula-hula - more hip slide in the back swing. And perhaps a more stationary head. If you look at Tiger above, you will also see that he is keeping his turn on plane by swaying his lower spine at the top. He is leaning into the shot with his upper body. Tiger is stacked and ready to fire on plane. You don't look similarly well positioned to fire your guns.

Using an image where you turn around your left foot in the back swing and around the right foot in the down swing my help, IMO.

Considering where you are at the top, you finish your swing very well. I bet that saves you a lot of trouble.
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Old 09-22-2010, 12:41 PM
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Ah Ha!
The old "rubber legs" thing. I too wish I could get rid of that habbit. If U find a drill to prevent the problem let me know.

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Old 09-22-2010, 05:23 PM
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Do you manage to reach a solid impact position with "rubber legs"? If so how do you compensate for this issue?
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by nolimit569 View Post
Do you manage to reach a solid impact position with "rubber legs"? If so how do you compensate for this issue?
I practice 2 things;
Roll the back foot first before lifting the heel
Then "catch the dogs tail" - a Ben Doyle drill

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Old 09-23-2010, 10:49 AM
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Do you manage to reach a solid impact position with "rubber legs"? If so how do you compensate for this issue?
That knee action is what allows you to get to the ball due to the uncentered motion in your backstroke . . .
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:20 PM
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Aha, funny that is mentioned I had worked on "centering" my pivot a bit and then took a lessons from Golftec who proceeded to work with me on shifting my weight back more(on the backswing).

Thank you for all the useful information thus far, not to single anyone out but i really enjoyed 12 piece's look at the front of the backswing image.

Not that motions need to be classified, but if I were looking to pursue a specific pattern, does my arm motion seem to fit into more of a swinger's or hitters pattern?
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nolimit569 View Post
Aha, funny that is mentioned I had worked on "centering" my pivot a bit and then took a lessons from Golftec who proceeded to work with me on shifting my weight back more(on the backswing).

Thank you for all the useful information thus far, not to single anyone out but i really enjoyed 12 piece's look at the front of the backswing image.

Not that motions need to be classified, but if I were looking to pursue a specific pattern, does my arm motion seem to fit into more of a swinger's or hitters pattern?
Don't mess with that arm swing . . . it's nice . . . but to classify is kind of hard. The elbow positions are in relation to the hips in their classification. However the elbow positions are truly based on the loading. With you it's kinda tough to say. Your elbow is "punchy" but your hips don't really work right because due the faulty head movement.

And again the pivot motion that results is going to impact your release motion as well. So I'm not sure I'd get to concerned about what procedure you employ at this point. You just need to clean up that pivot. You clearly have the talent to hit or swing . . . but that pivot is going to hold you back. You are too good to have a pivot that is that whacky.

Your arms move nice in relation to your body. Your wedges line up nice. You just need to begin with fixing the backstroke pivot. That should help you clean up the knee action. If the cats at GTec or whatever they call themselves are telling you to move off the ball more . . . you need to shoot them the finger AND RUN AWAY FAST!!! Unless you want to hit the ball low and don't give a crap where it goes . . . You got plenty of talent . . . GO FIX THAT PIVOT and send us some better pictures.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:20 PM
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A drill for you that would be very helpful is the dowel through the belt loops.

that will help you quiet the lower body a bit to feel what 'centered' is.

It will feel to you like it is 'all arms' for a bit. You have to quiet the hips to let the hands get down into impact with the dowel in place - to clear the right hip -

Another would be to hit a lot of balls with your feet together, and slowly widen the stance back.

as far as feels for the pivot - feel like that right hip goes straight back, like your 'loading the right cheek' a bit - a more rotational feel than you probably have now

I agree with bucket - you've got a lot going for you!
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