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Old 10-02-2010, 10:54 AM
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Ok...Allow me to say something about the Swivel. Please "Bear" with me.

First, keep in mind that we use "Dead Hands". The Hands are Clamps.

Second, a Swivel is the Rotation of the Clubface around the Longitudinal Axis of the Sweetspot Plane.

My interpretation of the Swivel is as follows.

The Pitched Elbow creates the Swivel during the Backstroke and the Unbending (straightening of the Right Arm) creates the Pre-Impact Swivel during Release.
  1. Hold a Golfclub in your Right Hand and align the Right Forearm Flying Wedge.
  2. Start to make a Backstroke and stop when the Shaft is parallel to the Base line of the Inclined Plane.
  3. Look at the Clubface.
  4. While keeping the Shaft Parallel to the Base Line, bend and unbend your Right Elbow. Notice how the Face of the Clubhead lays against the Inclined Plane as you bend your Elbow and that it becomes once again Vertical to the ground as you unbend your Right Elbow.

Although the Swivel is controlled by the Right Elbow, one should not Bend the Right Elbow or Unbend the Right Elbow. The Bending and Straightening of the Right Elbow is a response to the Check-rein Action of the Left Arm. This way the Rate of Closing and Swivel is controlled and Ball Location can be moved Forward or Aft with predictable results. You see, when you move the Ball Aft to produce a Fade, although the Clubface was open at Separation relative to the Plane Line, the Face become fully Swiveled to Vertical for Impact and one can sustain the line of compression for Horizontal Hinging. So it also goes when Drawing the Ball.

This Swivel is the Rotational Alignment Relationship of the Clubface to the Basic Plane that the Right Forearm Wedge Rotation is associated to (i.e. will Rotate around). In this case, it's the Horizontal Plane (ground).

From here, it becomes more technical so I'll save that if this discussion moves toward Closing Rates of the #3 Accumulator for Sweep vs Snap Releases. Etc.

Anyway, I could be misinterpreting the whole thing.
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Old 10-03-2010, 01:52 AM
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Daryl,

If I recall you had another major post on the svivel. Partly pre impact and partly post impact. Really interesting stuff, IMO. I think one of the big issues in the golf stroke is to be able to produce speed while approaching inmpact with the club face square.

I am speculating here so take this as a suggestion. I don't think the swiwel is controlled by the right hand / forearm / elbow. There's more to it. If you get the right rotation initially to a somewhat arched left hand alignment, pp #1 & #3 pressure will trigger a swivel. But if the the left hand is bent or flat, anything that reminds of driveloading will prevent the swivel. IMO, this is one of the reasons you can't driveload from the top if you rotate pp#3. If you stay away from driveloading, however - and do your thing , accumulator #3 release there will be no swivel resistance and an educated left hand will take care of it bu simply knowing it's impact alignment.

It is easy to see in a lot of good golfers how they arch their left hand in good time before impact. Most of those who do it, do it in the middle of the down swing. Then you have Dustin Johnson and a few others who does it from the top. I think those who do that, driveload the primary assembly lever.
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:01 AM
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I've written a lot about the Swivel in the past and have been wrong most of the time. But I agree that Arching the Left Wrist is also Swivel related.
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Old 10-04-2010, 12:09 AM
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Well I hope you keep up with writing about it Daryl,

I think it's one of the most important things to get right and parts of it is still a mystery to me.

How did for instance Hogan manage to go from bent left wrist at the top to arched at impact? Whenever I arch at the top the club head stays open all the way? I don't get it.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:01 AM
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May I ask a favor?
May I ask a favor? And this is an appropriate spot to ask. The definition of "swivel". Here is why I ask. At "almost all" points in the swing the motions of the hands (turn-roll) or the wrists (cock-uncock, bent-arched) can be used to describe the motion and alignments- although without brevity it may seem.
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Out at follow-through when both arms get straight, there is this "swivel" thing- to me, kind of like a universal joint, lets things get-around so they can move freely. I don't care about sequence etc. whatever it takes, a little bending-rollong-cocking in the most free manner.

It may make it harder to explain, by using the wrist/hand terms, but clearer for understanding.

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Old 10-04-2010, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BerntR View Post
Whenever I arch at the top the club head stays open all the way? I don't get it.
That might not be a bad thing as long as you slightly less open than the path (drawing the ball).
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