Brian, I'm with you 100%. I suspect nearly every person here thinks in a similar vein.
Compression is addicting. And, like you, since winter is almost here (Minn) I look forward to a lot of basica and acquired motion through the winter.
I can't get this idea out of my head that Flipping is an inherent result of "Swiveling" through Impact, and Hinging produces the opposite result. With Hinging, the more likely outcome would be a slightly Bowed Left Wrist.
I'm going to spend part of this Winter working toward more understanding of these two very different procedures.
Swiveling, in the general sense, seems to be about rotation about the Longitudinal Axis of the Club or Left Arm or Both, while Hinging is about Rotation about an axis perpendicular to an associated Plane, totally about sustaining the Lag. These are completely different types of Rotation. One is just as easy to apply as the other.
A Player cannot "Flip" with the #3 PP Dragging the Clubhead through Impact and Follow-through.
So Swiveling, in the general sense, as applied as an Impact Procedure will always Bend the Plane Line, while Hinging insists that the Clubhead Orbit remain undisturbed, thus not bending the Plane Line.
A Player cannot "Flip" with the #3 PP Dragging the Clubhead through Impact and Follow-through.
Great points. I know I often get too wrapped up in watching angles when I know the whole point should be maintaining pressure. Thank you for the excellent reminder.
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
Swiveling, in the general sense, seems to be about rotation about the Longitudinal Axis of the Club or Left Arm or Both, while Hinging is about Rotation about an axis perpendicular to an associated Plane, totally about sustaining the Lag. These are completely different types of Rotation. One is just as easy to apply as the other.
A Player cannot "Flip" with the #3 PP Dragging the Clubhead through Impact and Follow-through.
I feel like the "bad" swing image for me is the "around the spine" view of how the swing works rather than the low point opposite left should construct. If you view the center of the arc as your spine, the club head would pass the hands at mid body. (At least this is the geometry that I had in my head.) I was also taught to "throw" the barrel of the baseball bat versus pushing. Bad imagery of how leading to bad mechanics.
There will always be good days and bad days. On the good days there isn't much need for swing thinking; Address the ball. Everything looks and feels OK. Do the motion. It is on the other days that our image of the swing mechanics makes the biggest difference. What we try to do when something in the stroke is broke is depending of our understanding of the mechanics involved.
With an inadequate understanding things tend to get worse the harder we try to fix it. Typical examples are the slicers who produces their biggest slice when they absolutely can't affort a leak towards right field. And the hooker(*cough*) who snaps the drive when they absolutely can't afford a curved ball off the Tee. And the typical trap that most golfers with a history has been in several times: The more we try to fix the swing on the course the worse it gets.
With an adequate understanding there is a better chance that we get back on track, or at least keep the problems under control and save the score until the stroke returns. And I also believe playing and practicing with an adequate understanding of cause and effect gives promise of long term improvement.
Most people will experience improvement if they take a few lessons and practice a lot. Or simply play and practice a lot. Very often their best doesn't get any better though. They're still the same golfer with the same swing and the same limitations. But they're in good form. That's all.
I've come to believe that fundamental long term improvement goes hand in hand with a better understanding of causes and effects in the golf stroke. Knowing what you're doing can make a big difference.
1) standard flip where I have the wrong image that I'm swinging around my spine -- I slow my hands and the club head passes them.
2) right hand gets confused and pushes the club head through versus pushing PP #1. Do this one and you can hit it fat, hit it thin, darn near miss it! This one usually happens with the driver. I swear I can hit like a top spin forehand with a driver with this flip.
3) This last one is my real nemesis now. I'm not even sure if "flip" is the right term, but the club head passes my hands. I don't know if this is "running out of right arm". Here is what happens. I manage to screw up either my hip action (no slide) or not get my right should down the plane (maybe more like over the top). I'm trying to push, but, well, there's no way to hit the ball without flipping the club head into it versus driving through it. I lose about 10 yards on the shot, it's usually toed, and moves with hook/draw action. Playable, but no where near the compression I'm capable of...
So, I'll be dragging my wet mop all winter and be looking to "do well with dowels" to combat the evil flip. Basic motion for a few months is bound to help, too.
There will always be good days and bad days. On the good days there isn't much need for swing thinking; Address the ball. Everything looks and feels OK. Do the motion. It is on the other days that our image of the swing mechanics makes the biggest difference. What we try to do when something in the stroke is broke is depending of our understanding of the mechanics involved.
With an inadequate understanding things tend to get worse the harder we try to fix it. Typical examples are the slicers who produces their biggest slice when they absolutely can't affort a leak towards right field. And the hooker(*cough*) who snaps the drive when they absolutely can't afford a curved ball off the Tee. And the typical trap that most golfers with a history has been in several times: The more we try to fix the swing on the course the worse it gets.
You are right there. If you understand the mechanics, you are way ahead.
One thing, it's better to stop trying to think through the swing. Better to concentrate on something like an Impact point or tracing. Just give the conscious mind something to do and let the subconscious take over.
I believe in the four stages of learning physical behavior -- unconsciously incompetent, consciously incompetent, consciously competent, unconsciously competent. Driving is a great example. You don't remember driving home from work today. You did it very competently, but you didn't "10 and 2" it like a student driver thinking about every lane change, etc.
Your golf swing (any athletic endeavor, really) should be the same -- select the pattern to fit the situation, visualize the shot then step in and execute.
The drills in slow motion I think are a great way to get to feel the swing and ingrain the motions and feels. Basic Motion also being a great way to isolate the mechanics and feel of impact.
that Flipping is an inherent result of "Swiveling" through Impact, and Hinging produces the opposite result. With Hinging, the more likely outcome would be a slightly Bowed Left Wrist. 
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