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Old 12-30-2010, 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post

That last photo sure looks like he's going to .........CP, or swing left or .........Angled hinge on the elbow plane, whatever. Im throwing around terms that I really dont understand here. ..........cept for the last bit maybe.
Have a look at this . . . Palmer turned his shoulders as steep as anybody ever . . . this is a DRIVER . . .









I think you'll find that Palmer actually exits LOWER than Hogan . . . due to the fact that he doesn't continue to release his hips forward and up . . . which would raise the shaft up more . . . staying bent over is going to make the club exit lower . . . but the club ain't working out away from him.



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Old 12-30-2010, 08:58 AM
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:30 PM
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Hogan hand path


I tried to capture the butt end of the club on each frame. Some of the frames are interpolated blurs and useless, so the precision is probably so-so. However I am confident that the overall trend representative.

The hand path basically shows that Hogan "swings left" from end to end - whith his hands.

I was also planning to capture the clubhead path but that is impossible from the videos I have excamined.

The ball goes stright down the middle of the frame, it looks like a very straight shot that dies to the right. You can see the swing here:


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Old 12-30-2010, 02:54 PM
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Earlier in the down swing.



If I was a bit better equipped with editing tools I would have drawn an arrow from Hogans right shoulder down to his right hand.

During a major part of the down stroke Hogan's right shoulder is very close to being on the same plane as the hand path. Thus, he can thrust his hands through the path (or keep them there) by drive loading or extencior action.

TGM emphasise the right threeceps as THE muscle that operates the drive loading or extencior action. Personally I believe that there is a litte more involved, but I don't think the geometrical relationship betwen Hogan's left hand and shoulder is a coincidence. A straight push will help him hold the hand path.

As we saw in the picture in my post above, Hogan's shoulder path crosses over to the outside of the hand path towards and past impact. It's a physical fact that when club picks up speed it will impose a centrifugal force on the hands that will tend to push the hands outside their path. This is very evident in Ricky Fowler's low point position, but not so with Hogan. He holds the form exceptionally well through impact. When his right shoulder gets outside the hand path, his pushing with the right tricep will to a certain extent oppose the tendency of clubhead inertia to pull the hands outside the plane - and still drive the hands down their path.

Hogan's hand path is outside-in past impact in spite of CF trying to throw the hands out. THis means that Hogan's application of force around impact and past impace is even more outside-in than the hand path shows.
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:58 PM
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Let the record show that Daryl added a cigarette and aunt antenna to Mr Hogan's head in that final frame there.........

Daryl, you wanna stay late after class again???? Hand me that sling shot too there fella .... and do you have any caps that dont have a propeller on the top?
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
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nice smoke . . . .

3 different pivots . . . Hogan the most forward with the hips and shoulders open . . . . Palmer maintains his waist bend . . . Fowler tilts back some right shoulder works underneathish.
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Old 12-30-2010, 04:15 PM
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Look how steep Fowler's shaft angle is on that picture. It sure was flatter midway down.

Hogan and Palmer has a very similar shoulder turn, but Hogan's pivot is more driven by the hips and feet while Palmer's motion is more upper body oriented.
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I love the addition of the cigarette in Mr Hogan's photo!
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