A picture I found of Hogan late in life. I think a very good case can be made that the right shoulder is still in line to drive the main lever of the power package here at P5.
Steve Stricker working on similar alignments at top?
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A picture I found of Hogan late in life. I think a very good case can be made that the right shoulder is still in line to drive the main lever of the power package here at P5.
Steve Stricker working on similar alignments at top?
NICE . . . still able to do it when old and crusty and still on a busted set of 170 year old wheels . . .
If you look at those pics of Fowler and Rose in comparison . . . there is definitely some differences in how their right arms and shoulders are working . . . not saying those cats are "wrong" . . both are amazing talents . . . but which of the 3 has the right shoulder providing the most "support" for the release motion of the right arm?
NICE . . . still able to do it when old and crusty and still on a busted set of 170 year old wheels . . .
If you look at those pics of Fowler and Rose in comparison . . . there is definitely some differences in how their right arms and shoulders are working . . . not saying those cats are "wrong" . . both are amazing talents . . . but which of the 3 has the right shoulder providing the most "support" for the release motion of the right arm?
I see it. Very important stuff Bucket!
Possibly why some really good teachers of the machine are able to look so lazy through impact while still generating massive power? Alignments and Sequencing!!!
Kevin
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All golfers use CF. Some use it to Uncock the Left Wrist and Unbend the Right Elbow and Some use Right Arm Thrust to Straighten the Right Elbow and Uncock the Left Wrist.
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With Drive Loading (10-19-A) the outward pull of Centrifugal Force tends to conceal but cannot cancel the considerable contribution of a pre-stressed (Bent) Clubshaft, though it is Bent even more at Separation.
All golfers use CF. Some use it to Uncock the Left Wrist and Unbend the Right Elbow and Some use Right Arm Thrust to Straighten the Right Elbow and Uncock the Left Wrist.
Cool with me! I don't wanna fight with you! We been in enough fights with other foolz in the past 2 months right!
So let's discuss Fowler and Rose vs. Hogan . . . .
How would you catalog? Or is it possible? Are Fowler and Rose executing a plane line shift? Or is that what swinging "looks like" . . . or is it Hitting? Or is it off plane motion?
They are certainly doing something different than Hogan right?
Cool with me! I don't wanna fight with you! We been in enough fights with other foolz in the past 2 months right!
So let's discuss Fowler and Rose vs. Hogan . . . .
How would you catalog? Or is it possible? Are Fowler and Rose executing a plane line shift? Or is that what swinging "looks like" . . . or is it Hitting? Or is it off plane motion?
They are certainly doing something different than Hogan right?
Lets see if we can see and understand the Plane Shift in the same way. The Plane Shift does not need to occur at Release. I think that for many Golfers the Plane Shift does occur at Release but both Hogan and Fowler Plane Shift at Startdown and their Sequenced Releases occur on the Elbow Plane.
Your observation of the Post Impact Clubshaft Angle at Follow-through is correct. I don't think that they're on the same Plane that they were at Impact. But I don't equate that with Hitting or Swinging. I would equate that with "Pivot Controlled Hands". It's allowing the Pivot to control the Alignments. I'm sure that they could teach their Pivot to move their Hands like Hogan moved His Hands but I think that the jury is still out on Hogan whether he used Pivot Controlled Hands vs Hands Controlled Pivot.
Can we separately discuss Plane Shifts because I think that either Acceleration Procedure, Hitting or Swinging can use any shift and any number of Shifts and almost anywhere in the Swing except Release through Follow-Through.
Your observation of the Post Impact Clubshaft Angle at Follow-through is correct. I don't think that they're on the same Plane that they were at Impact. But I don't equate that with Hitting or Swinging. I would equate that with "Pivot Controlled Hands". It's allowing the Pivot to control the Alignments. I'm sure that they could teach their Pivot to move their Hands like Hogan moved His Hands but I think that the jury is still out on Hogan whether he used Pivot Controlled Hands vs Hands Controlled Pivot.
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Can't the pivot assist with power by driving the lever, but still be CONTROLLED by the hands?
Kevin
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Lets see if we can see and understand the Plane Shift in the same way. The Plane Shift does not need to occur at Release. I think that for many Golfers the Plane Shift does occur at Release but both Hogan and Fowler Plane Shift at Startdown and their Sequenced Releases occur on the Elbow Plane.
Your observation of the Post Impact Clubshaft Angle at Follow-through is correct. I don't think that they're on the same Plane that they were at Impact. But I don't equate that with Hitting or Swinging. I would equate that with "Pivot Controlled Hands". It's allowing the Pivot to control the Alignments. I'm sure that they could teach their Pivot to move their Hands like Hogan moved His Hands but I think that the jury is still out on Hogan whether he used Pivot Controlled Hands vs Hands Controlled Pivot.
Can we separately discuss Plane Shifts because I think that either Acceleration Procedure, Hitting or Swinging can use any shift and any number of Shifts and almost anywhere in the Swing except Release through Follow-Through.
Ok . . . I certainly agree that from impact to delivery Hogan and Fowler execute a plane shift (most do) . . . BUT . . . I think Hogan is pretty much executing ON PLANE as much as anybody ever has from delivery through the ball. Hogan's hands are riding the plane in my opinion . . . Fowler's hands are above or the plane line has shifted right. People like to say Fowler swings like Hogan . . . not even close in my opinion. With Fowler it looks like CF is in control . . .everything trying to get "in line". Could be wrong . . .
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