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Old 03-10-2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gmbtempe View Post
Yea, off plane, right shoulder and hands are on the TSP at top but then go under both the TSP and Elbow plane. Great fix for the slice until it turns into a hook.

Its a poor Zone 1 issue, then throw in a poor right shoulder motion. I have found though the better the right shoulder works (on plane) the less a Zone 1 issue is created. When I miss around with Rotated Shoulder turn it seems to create a better alignment with the shoulders on the downswing.........but it feels like crap to me, less powerful as well.
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Reminds me of a comment from YODA. Rotated Shoulder Turn is great, as long as you always play down wind.

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Old 03-10-2011, 11:39 AM
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The difference in Right Forearm alignments at the delivery position are pretty drastic in those pictures. I always thought the ideal was Lovemark because its pointing at the ball and not coming in "too high"....I think reading this my understanding is wrong....is it just a matter of being on plane at impact?

I agree with Bucket on the right shoulder on the downswing, going back to his epic thread a few months ago.
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Old 03-10-2011, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gmbtempe View Post
The difference in Right Forearm alignments at the delivery position are pretty drastic in those pictures. I always thought the ideal was Lovemark because its pointing at the ball and not coming in "too high"....I think reading this my understanding is wrong....is it just a matter of being on plane at impact?

I agree with Bucket on the right shoulder on the downswing, going back to his epic thread a few months ago.
HK said that the TSP offers more Right Shoulder support than the Elbow Plane.

How does that happen? Well, it's an Alignment.

If you stand behind the Golfer (during Impact) and look down his Right Shoulder, down the Angle of Approach of his Right Forearm, are the #3 PP, Elbow and Right Shoulder in Alignment to the Angle of Approach. It doesn't mean that the Right Shoulder stays On-Plane all the way until Impact or how high or low the Right Forearm. And, you can't measure that from drawn lines of a down the line view as in the photos of these two golfers.

To see if you're getting Right Shoulder support, tie a string from your Right Shoulder to your #3 PP, and imagine a vertical plane of the string. Then at Impact, is your Elbow aligned/touching that String Plane?
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:31 PM
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digesting....so if the BS shoulder turn were to be steeper/rotated it would require that you come back down that same steeper TSP? Maybe that would invite more of a round house/ OTT move?

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