Wow that was much harder to see then I thought. When viewing it in slow motion at impact the shaft at my hands is pointed behind the ball (don't seem to be flipping), but there is a huge "C" in the shaft as the club head bends forward to hit the ball.
The shaft does kick forward and is not an indication of Throwaway necessarily. For iron shots the impact with the ground bends it back, again. The difference in bend as seen in slow mo vs regular is the subject of some debate. Some think its an illusion or artifact some say its real. Either way assuming a properly fit shaft for your swing speed the cause of your hook lies elsewhere. Divergence between face angle and clubhead path is the place to start your search. Then search out the why associated with your faulty impact geometry. Work it backwards from Impact in other words.
As you do this sort of thing more and more you'll start to notice patterns and most likely
see root causes that have associated subconscious compensations that mask the root problem. For instance : a guy hitting weak fades. Diagnosis: open face at impact and outside in path. The face reverse rolling , steering vertical hinging as a compensation for the outside in path which hit the odd left to left shot prior to the compensation. Cure: fix the club head path and roll a horizontal hinge which brings back all the lost compression.
Ok you probably guessed this is one of my patterns if so, you are correct. In working on covering , trapping mid irons while hitting indoors over the winter, I'd over done it , not worked through my entire bag enough and had ingrained a slight over the top move . Which works for a mid iron kinda sorta but is a disaster with a less lofted club , long iron
or driver.
So there's cause, compensation, cure and the reason behind the whole sad affair. Well intentioned though it was. When I got my Horizontal back the balls starting flying again.
So if some guy on the range offers you a tip...... Ask yourself if it's a compensation or not. It may seem to work but only serve to further mask your real issue. Professional help speeds up the healing process.
Nice swing there jlcowper you look like you can bend a shaft pretty good
Looks like this man can flat out thump it. Could the problem with hooks come from such a big increase in axis tilt? I would love to see what would happen if we could get a little more centered at impact.
Kevin
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Ball position code red. Good looking motion but forced to stop and attempt to throw it in an effort to square face. Look how back on you a line up from the ball would be at the 0:01 frame. (If that's not correct, try the 0:02 frame as it is our last option) Move ball forward and that pivot will be a bit more centered where you can drive out that pressure you're wanting to feel instead of playing defense.
jlcowper These are some seriously good pros talking about your situation here.
Impact geometry but why? Hanging back , ball position ....maybe both? Maybe one is the root problem and the other is a compensation? Maybe not.
Maybe you hit so many shots in Basic and Acquired that it changed your ball position with the driver adversely? Moved it back? Maybe not.
Welcome to LBG hope you think this line of thinking is more revealing than some guy just saying you're doing this or that wrong ..... period. There's more to the story, often.
You gotta understand the impact geometry or you're doomed to suffer from its implications. If you tee the ball way way back of low point with a driver youre clubhead is traveling Forward, Down and Out to low point . Think about the OUT . With an iron , given the more upright plane angle and the loft etc it wont tend to hit a curve ball as much.......but with a driver, look out.
Welcome to LBG hope you think this line of thinking is more revealing than some guy just saying you're doing this or that wrong ..... period. There's more to the story, often.
You gotta understand the impact geometry or you're doomed to suffer from its implications. If you tee the ball way way back of low point with a driver youre clubhead is traveling Forward, Down and Out to low point . Think about the OUT . With an iron , given the more upright plane angle and the loft etc it wont tend to hit a curve ball as much.......but with a driver, look out.
Love it OB !!!
Kevin
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Ball position, axis tilt and regressive roundhousing
Originally Posted by KevCarter
Love it OB !!!
Kevin
Ha! My last two rounds have begun with being greedy for more distance and roundhousing all over the place.
Despite starting with 52 last week and 3 lost balls on the front 9 , I shot par on the last 5 holes and one birdie for a finishing 41 by keeping my balance and axis tilting. If the ball is too far forward I cannot maintain balance. As my axis tilt gets warmed up, I can slide the ball a little more forward for a very high fade with my driver.
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Ball position code red. Good looking motion but forced to stop and attempt to throw it in an effort to square face. Look how back on you a line up from the ball would be at the 0:01 frame. (If that's not correct, try the 0:02 frame as it is our last option) Move ball forward and that pivot will be a bit more centered where you can drive out that pressure you're wanting to feel instead of playing defense.
Sidebar: what cha feedin them calves? ??
Cause and effect, so obvious, yet I totally missed it. Great pair of eyes Mr. JT!
Kevin
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