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Old 02-14-2012, 05:08 PM
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You're seeing something that I'm not catching. I admit that I limited my observation by focusing on Hinge Action because I thought that some of his errant shot may have been caused by swiveling - over or under. I don't think Hinging or Swiveling is his problem.

I watched every down the line slo-mo I could. I see a precision Dual Horz Hinge for all of his Iron shots. As far as I could tell, he was no better or worse than Phil when it came to Hinge action and pulley on Iron shots and they are both exceptionally elite players. Tiger hit a beautiful drive on 18. The slow mo again showed a perfect Hinge and Pulley.

As far as the pulley goes, if he's playing with that much shaft lean at Impact then he's playing the ball far enough aft that he's hardly entering the pulley before contact. I understand that doing so reduces the margin of error substantially because release point will affect clubface alignment.

His chipping and putting were way below his normal standard while Phil played at the very top of his ability. 11 stroke difference in 18 holes. Phil shredded Tiger. Tiger was obviously unraveled. He was losing it hole by hole and he knew he couldn't do anything about it. I give credit to Tiger, because if were him, after watching Phils' putt on 18, I'd be carried off the course on a stretcher.

I'd pay a thousand bucks to hear the next conversation between Tiger and Foley.
Distance control issues if you don't nail the appropriate amount of lean.....he air mailed a bunch of greens with short irons Sunday....







All that trigger delay and shaft lean is purty and all....but the ball is gonna go to far at times if your 9 iron turns into a 7 1/2 iron instead of an 8 iron that you expect....
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:23 AM
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I don't see a problem with the Shaft Lean. In this case it's Ball Location and not an alignment flaw. "Geometry of the Circle". The farther Aft of Low Point the Ball is located, the more Shaft Lean.

It's clearly obvious that with each of these pictures that none of them align the Flying Wedges at 90 degrees. No 10-2-B, fine. So you don't need a 90 degree alignment to play Tournament Golf. But in each picture, it's their Right Forearm Wedge that's not Aligned and that means the #3 PP isn't sensing pressure for distance control. So, each uses the #2 PP (or #4). That's not as mechanically sound because the #2 PP will be released. But, it's not a swing contest.

I wouldn't recommend that for casual players like us because it requires you to sleep with your clubs.

Maybe as important as having good mechanical alignments is having your "Stars" aligned that day.
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Old 02-15-2012, 08:55 AM
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Lost Lag!
I will continue to argue that he has lost lag pressure before impact. Forward bend of the shaft contqains NO lag press. Lag extends to th first non lagging component. The back of the insert in this case. HK says this is the hardest to detect. TW slo mo driver pix provide that info. If it is thought that he is retaining lag, please show me the error in my conclusion.

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Old 02-15-2012, 10:32 AM
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I will continue to argue that he has lost lag pressure before impact. Forward bend of the shaft contqains NO lag press. Lag extends to th first non lagging component. The back of the insert in this case. HK says this is the hardest to detect. TW slo mo driver pix provide that info. If it is thought that he is retaining lag, please show me the error in my conclusion.

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good gravy.....you are saying that a cat that can fly the ball 300 plus has lost lag pressure???? Oh boy.
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good gravy.....you are saying that a cat that can fly the ball 300 plus has lost lag pressure???? Oh boy.
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2-E, 6-C-2-B
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:17 PM
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Yes.
2-E, 6-C-2-B
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I struggle with chapter 2 probably more than the next guy, but I see all three of those references supporting the need for lag pressure through the impact interval, the very foundation of our studies here...

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Old 02-15-2012, 06:48 PM
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I will continue to argue that he has lost lag pressure before impact. Forward bend of the shaft contqains NO lag press.
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The shaft kicks before impact in every properly fitted shaft. The trick is to get a flex that gives as a straight a shaft as possible at IMPACT for face control. As a general rule, too stiff and it kicks too early, too much flex and the head lags the shaft at impact holding the face open. In those photos of Woods, he hasn't lost lag pressure, the sweetspot is outrunning the shaft, but not his trigger finger(pp#3)!
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HB - In particular, :45 through 1:00 will clear it up for you. Thanks for the great video Kevin, I hadn't seen it before now.
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Old 02-15-2012, 07:33 PM
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HB - In particular, :45 through 1:00 will clear it up for you. Thanks for the great video Kevin, I hadn't seen it before now.
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