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Old 01-28-2005, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 8cork
Is this right arm thrust you guys are talking about a push with the tricep of the right arm? I am a hitter, and I really don't feel a release, per se, I simply drive my right forearm down out and through the ball, it's almost as if I don't even have a hand.
That is a similar feel to what I'm getting. To me it feels like I'm not releasing the club at all, more like I'm even holding on through impact.
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Old 02-03-2005, 04:32 PM
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Maybe I am getting a little of the info thru my thick head. I hit the
ball a lot better at the driving range today The only thing I can describe
is thoughts. I hope this does not foulup any newbie like my. Here goes.

Trying to use hitting. At the top while trying to keep the shaft in line with
my forearm. (per dowel pratice) feel like right arm is raised in a swearing in
position. From there I drive the right forearm toward the ground elbow to
hand straight down. If I did not pivot I feel like I would just hit my self
in the side with my elbow. I try to be aware of a bent right wrist doing this.
Another thing I check that the left arm/ shoulder are connected during
the down swing. This is what is working for me. Your mileage may very.
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Old 02-03-2005, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Chestang
Trying to use hitting. At the top while trying to keep the shaft in line with
my forearm. (per dowel pratice) feel like right arm is raised in a swearing in position. From there I drive the right forearm toward the ground elbow to hand straight down. If I did not pivot I feel like I would just hit my self
in the side with my elbow. I try to be aware of a bent right wrist doing this.
Another thing I check that the left arm/ shoulder are connected during
the down swing. This is what is working for me. Your mileage may very.
You're working on the right things, Bob. Stay with it...and thanks for posting!
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Old 02-08-2005, 04:52 PM
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Is this where
......the big pulley/ small pulley line of thinking enters in?
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Old 02-19-2005, 03:21 PM
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""Yes, Bob. From the Top, the Pivot Transports the Power Package to the Release Point.

Then, and only then, does the Right Elbow Fire. ""

yoda,

when the "right elbow fires" is that not extensor action?

i'm a little confused as to when to apply right arm extensor action, using the right triceps. i've heard that extensor action should be applied throughout the entire swing, which keeps right hand heel pressure on the left thumb. but, that would seem contradictory to deliverng the power package to the release point and "only then" firing the right elbow.

should i try to actively straighten the right elbow from the top, or does that not occur until my hands have reached a point closer to the ball?

thanks, mike.
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Old 02-19-2005, 03:55 PM
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For right arm swingers, they should actively straighten the right elbow, from the top it's "one smooth motion" (right arm acceleration) to the release point...then utilizing a non-automatic snap release a la Jodie Mudd or Ernie Els....see Harvey Penick's little red book...what I just described is what Harvey called "the magic move"....TGM AI Tom Tomasello defined the magic move in his Australia video....the muscles of the right forearm start the club down....the body reacts to the muscles of the right forearm...Tomasello student Mark Evershed developed a teaching system around the magic move called "The Golf Solution"....www.t-g-s.com......on the lesson tee with Tomasello, I asked Tommy "Where in the book does it say to use the right forearm to start the club down...his response was "7-3, THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM"

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Old 02-20-2005, 12:30 AM
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For right arm swingers, they should not actively try to straighten the right elbow, the elbow will straighten by pivot rotation, from the top it's "one smooth motion" (right arm acceleration) through an automatic snap release a la Jodie Mudd or Ernie Els....see Harvey Penick's little red book...what I just described is what Harvey called "the magic move"....TGM AI Tom Tomasello defined the magic move in his Australia video....the muscles of the right forearm start the club down....the body reacts to the muscles of the right forearm...Tomasello student Mark Evershed developed a teaching system around the magic move called "The Golf Solution"....www.t-g-s.com......on the lesson tee with Tomasello, I asked Tommy "Where in the book does it say to use the right forearm to start the club down...his response was "7-3, THE MAGIC OF THE RIGHT FOREARM"

However, the right arm swinger can use "the bat" with non-automatic releases for his/her short game (full sweep releases)....you can also utilize automatic snap releases in your short game too, see 10-20-B...."the Right Arm simply pushes the Lever Assemblies toward Impact with an early or late Release." What a key concept.....


All that is needed is MORE KNOWLEDGE....
so right arm swingers needn't worry about extensor action from takeaway through to the follow through, is that correct?
.............maybe i'm a right arm swinger!
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Old 02-20-2005, 02:25 AM
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Tommy very definitely teaches extensor action in his right arm swing, so i'm pretty sure DG will tell you it is still needed.


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Old 02-20-2005, 09:02 AM
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For me, the hitting impulse is programmed at the top of the swing. When my pivot moves my hips, right shoulder and right forearm into position, the #3 pressure point increases and moves slightly aft. I'm ready for this sensation and then begin to drive my #1 and #3 PP toward the aft inside quad od the ball. It seems more of a thrusting pitching motion rather than a straightening of the right elbow. The #1 PP subsides or stays constant about halfway thru the release and the #3 PP increases dramatically. The pivot plays a huge roll in this procedure because without the hips aligned properly, I don't sense the #3 PP moving aft and traveling toward the aft quad of the ball. Then #3 PP becomes more directing than powering.

I can also right arm thrust by using tricept muscles but this seems more of a punch sroke and my right shoulder has to travel further down plane to the ball and occurs much closer to impact. Not as massive feeling, but effective.
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Old 02-20-2005, 11:57 AM
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Loading And Supporting The Right Arm Drive
Originally Posted by Daryl
For me, the hitting impulse is programmed at the top of the swing. When my pivot moves my hips, right shoulder and right forearm into position, the #3 pressure point increases ...

I can also right arm thrust by using tricept muscles but this seems more of a punch sroke and my right shoulder has to travel further down plane to the ball and occurs much closer to impact. Not as massive feeling, but effective.

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For both Hitters and Swingers, the Pivot Loads the #3 Lag Pressure Point during the Start Down. This insures that the Body will lead the Power Package into the Downstroke and offers assurance that it will continue to do so into the Finish.

For Hitters, the Loading is maintained on the Aft side of the Shaft. Since the Right Forearm supports this Loading Action, this procedure simultaneously Loads the Bent Right Arm. Led by the Hip Slide (parallel to the chosen Delivery Line), the Downstroke Right Shoulder Turn takes up the initial inertia -- the disinclination of the Sweet Spot to follow.

But...the Shoulder Turn is slow, and its ability to continue the Downstroke Acceleration soon pales in comparison to that of the now Loaded Right Triceps. Accordingly, the Right Shoulder early in the Downstroke ceases to apply Thrust. Instead, its Action (actively doing work) becomes merely Motion (permitting, but not causing, other events to occur).

It thus becomes the Launching Pad -- the 'recoil' platform -- for the Driving Right Arm.
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