Its funny , even in this thread there is misunderstanding. I understand all the concepts you try to explain that is not what i am talking about. Im not taking about where you should feell the pressure point i have listened to many masters classes and been reading the book for 10 years. What i am asking is about the actual location of the #3 pressure point as outlined in the book at address as you put it on the shaft because i am just reading what he says and it seems to be different that what i had learned. Reread my first post as to why i think the pressure point he is talking abut is the base or first joint of the index finger. Thanks for the replys
B can you post the passage or the reference again? Sorry man.
Its funny , even in this thread there is misunderstanding. I understand all the concepts you try to explain that is not what i am talking about. Im not taking about where you should feell the pressure point i have listened to many masters classes and been reading the book for 10 years. What i am asking is about the actual location of the #3 pressure point as outlined in the book at address as you put it on the shaft because i am just reading what he says and it seems to be different that what i had learned. Reread my first post as to why i think the pressure point he is talking abut is the base or first joint of the index finger. Thanks for the replys
The #3 pressure point, as I understand it, is the fleshy pad between the palm of your hand and the first knuckle joint of the index finger - the metacarpal.
This is (should be?) the only part of that finger in contact with the aft part of the club shaft.
BB,I do understand what you are saying,(I think)you would have a far deeper understanding of Homers works than me,I have only had it a couple of years.
In regard to #3,I got into the book a bit deeper than my usual "quick read"and came across 7-11,in the 7th edition,the 3rd paragraph page 104,where he spoke of the "on plane"pressure point thrust of the power accs translates the potential energy into clubhead "on plane " kinetic energy------always at right angles to the shaft,and a bit further on it relates to the sweetspot plane.
Does that fall more in line with inside quadrant of ball in relation to #3 pp on shaft?
Using 10-2-B, with Standard Wrist Action, the First Joint of the Index Finger, where it touches the Shaft, is Aligned with the #2 Pressure Point. Swingers Load the #3 Pressure Point on the same line as the Left Wrist Cock (directly opposed to the Secondary Lever). Hitters do not, they Load against (don't shoot me) the Left Hand. Hitters Load against the Fleshy Part of the Index Finger.
If you use maximum #3 Accumulator Angle (in the Left Hand) and Release on the Elbow Plane, then the Pressure is likely to move against the Fleshy part of the Right index finger on the side of the Shaft (Aft Side because of Elbow Location). But, with a Small amount of #3 Accumulator angle and a Turned Shoulder Plane, the Pressure is likely, during Release, to remain against the First Knuckle of the Index Finger where it was Loaded on the Wrist Cock (Elbow Location a between the Belt Buckle and Right Side).
It's very interesting to note, that when using 10-2-B with 10-18-B (Double Wrist Action) that the Loading is against the Fleshy Part of the Right Index Finger. This is correct because the Fleshy part is on the same line as the Double Wrist Cock. Simultaneous Release with a Horizontal Hinge.
So, for a Swinger, the more Bent your Left Wrist at the Top of your Backswing, the more the shaft is against the Fleshy Part.
Its only recently that I can comprehend this post.
Your statement :Release on the Elbow Plane, then the Pressure is likely to move against the Fleshy part of the Right index finger on the side of the Shaft (Aft Side because of Elbow Location).
I can now feel this in my swing, it is very cool. I always wondered why I could not feel this but recently a key alignment has been fixed and the pressure on #3 increased dramatically and immediately.
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Aft simply means on the back of, inside means the part of the ball closest to the players feet, the goal is an 'inside-out' impact although it is not an inside out plane, but the ball is to be struck before low point, the club still traveling down and out towards low point through impact. Set your flat left wrist and clubface and put the #3 pp on the aft side of the shaft perpendicular to the line of the left wrist cock giving you a strong single action grip and the flying wedges. The plane o te left wrist cock perpendicular to the line of the right wrist bend.
Please don't attempt to re-write the book especially if it's 600 pages. The only simplification of the book is the authorized instructor. The #3pp IS the first fleshy pad of the index finger.
Question for lynn the inside aft quadrant in tgm refers to the corner of the ball if spit into 4 parts that is on the back towards you correct. Where is the aft of the shaft? Is homer saying the back of shaft or 45 degree postion if the top is 0 and the back is 90 degrees. I ask this because in a strong single action grip the left thumb and the #3 pressure point are said to be on the aft of the shaft if you look at the pics the left thumb is definately not on the back or 90 of the shaft it is on the 45 line. I ask this because i always thought of the number 3 pressure point as the fleshy pad on the longest part of your index finger. But homer says it is the first joint of the index finger. So when he says first joint does he mean the base of the index finger because that is a joint.
The problem arises in the understanding now for me because if the pressure point is at the base of the index finger and it was on the back of the shaft or 90 that would be a pretty strong right hand grip wich is not what he shows in the photos. If he is talking about the first joint of the finger being the knuckle in the middle of your index finger then if ots location was on the back or 90 degree of the shaft it woud be a very weak right hand grip wich again doesnt jive with the photo's. So to me the only answer that seems correct is that the #3 pressure point is the base or first joint of the index finger and its location is on the 45 or "AFT" of shaft wich gives you the right hand grip in the pictures. To me homers book can be like the scriptures you gotta read the context and its gotta comply with other passages no contradictions. I am qouteing from memory so please feel free to call me out on any mistakes, I knw you spent time with Homer so I was curious if he gave you a explanation on this "aft" location. Maybe you have explained as I am saying now before and I just misunderstood or maybe there is some details or anther way to look at it. Please help with clearing the fo for me on this location of the #3 pp.
I'm at Ocean Reef Club in Key Largo, Florida, these next two days leading an instructional event for their members. I'll ask Brett Jones, their Director of Instruction, to point a video camera at me for a few minutes tomorrow and see if I can help "clear the fog". Stay tuned!
I'm at Ocean Reef Club in Key Largo, Florida, these next two days leading an instructional event for their members. I'll see if I can get Brett Jones, their Director of Instruction, to point a video camera at me for a few minutes tomorrow and see if I can help "clear the fog". Stay tuned!
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Shot the 'pressure point' video late this PM. Five minutes of fun coming your way as soon as I can get it downloaded (to my laptop) and uploaded to the site.
Meanwhile, left the tee at 7 PM after the 7 AM breakfast. Same schedule tomorrow.
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