Release

[airair]

Does the release happen

1) before impact

2) exactly at impact

3) after impact (in the followthru)

4) it starts before impact and goes thru impact into the followthru.


Addtional questions:

What is the connection (if any) between release and lag?

What is the connection (if any) between release and delivery(position)?

Sustain the lag (until the release?)

[Daryti]

#4, for the starting point of release.

On section 8-9, release starts at the point of release trigger and continues until impact.

[airair]

#4, for the starting point of release.

On section 8-9, release starts at the point of release trigger and continues until impact.

This sounds like it is before impact.
The confusing thing is that Martin Hall in
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quotes Jack Nicklaus who said the release is when the distance between the left shoulder and the clubhead is at its longest - and he demonstrates this in the followthru. It seems that Homer Kelley and Jack Nicklaus - according to Martin Hall - differ in their opinion in this matter . How can that be?

[airair]

Release means to set free.
If the purpose of the backswing is to buld up and store power, which probably is the same as lag(?), that should mean that the release is the time and place in the down stroke where all this stored power and lag is set free. I guess that must be in front of impact from the so called delivery "position" and right thru impact. The result of this can possibly be seen in the followthru as Martin Hall (and Jack Nicklaus) was talking about? But then it is all over, I would think - and not where it actually takes place...

Help me out here all you TGM scholars.

[bambam]

There are LOTS of threads in the forum about release.

Short answer is that the release occurs before impact and finishes after. In TGM terms release means an out-of-line condition seeking it's inline state (eg. straightening right arm). The sequence with which the accumulators release is different for hitters and swingers.

Some searches should give you more detail. I recommend starting with the oldest posts first, as you'll find some really good stuff from Yoda in the archive forums.

If you find any old threads that helped clarify for you, please post links to them here so future seekers can benefit!

[airair]

There are LOTS of threads in the forum about release.

Short answer is that the release occurs before impact and finishes after. In TGM terms release means an out-of-line condition seeking it's inline state (eg. straightening right arm). The sequence with which the accumulators release is different for hitters and swingers.

Some searches should give you more detail. I recommend starting with the oldest posts first, as you'll find some really good stuff from Yoda in the archive forums.

If you find any old threads that helped clarify for you, please post links to them here so future seekers can benefit!

To be honest - I felt like drowning looking at hundreds of posts/threads, so I went for the quicker solution to take it up here once more. In addition I had the Martin Hall / Jack Nicklaus card that I thought gave it a new take?

[bambam]

To be honest - I felt like drowning looking at hundreds of posts/threads, so I went for the quicker solution to take it up here once more. In addition I had the Martin Hall / Jack Nicklaus card that I thought gave it a new take?

Everything I saw in that youTube video fits into the definition I gave about our out-of-line accumulators seeking their inline position. The second half of the video is referencing a swinger's sequenced release, but he covers a lot more than that. Hitters use a simultaneous release.

If you really want to understand it all, you should do some research through existing posts. There's a lot of good stuff in these forums, and again I can't emphasize enough how good the oldest posts from Yoda are in the archive sections.

[airair]

Everything I saw in that youTube video fits into the definition I gave about our out-of-line accumulators seeking their inline position. The second half of the video is referencing a swinger's sequenced release, but he covers a lot more than that. Hitters use a simultaneous release.

If you really want to understand it all, you should do some research through existing posts. There's a lot of good stuff in these forums, and again I can't emphasize enough how good the oldest posts from Yoda are in the archive sections.

I'm looking at a lot of the old stuff, but it is a lonely business reading it by oneself over a long period of time is not the same as having a dialogue about it, which is more interesting. It's not all that is understood correctly and therefore needs to be confirmed or corrected. If nobody wants to answer - that's a chance I'll have to take.

[HungryBear]

I'm looking at a lot of the old stuff, but it is a lonely business reading it by oneself over a long period of time is not the same as having a dialogue about it, which is more interesting. It's not all that is understood correctly and therefore needs to be confirmed or corrected. If nobody wants to answer - that's a chance I'll have to take.

I see "release" used in so many ways that the way to understand it is to figure out what context the writer is trying to convey. There are release types, release points, accumulator release sequences, release intervals, meanings of release that imply release is the first movement from a full loaded accumulator, meanings that imply an empty accumulator, etc. etc. This is not helpful but it is what it is in so many ways. I have no clue as to how to clear up the divergent usages.

The Bear

[airair]

I see "release" used in so many ways that the way to understand it is to figure out what context the writer is trying to convey. There are release types, release points, accumulator release sequences, release intervals, meanings of release that imply release is the first movement from a full loaded accumulator, meanings that imply an empty accumulator, etc. etc. This is not helpful but it is what it is in so many ways. I have no clue as to how to clear up the divergent usages.

The Bear

Ok - then I don't have to lose any sleep at night because of what I saw as a discrepancy between TGM and Hall/Nicklaus.
Thx