Thought that you would like it...really nice take away and great wrist position pre impact....thwump!
Impressive swing and compression. He looks like he stepped out of the Book. Great Release and Angled Hinge.
I like the hip motion at the take-away for the Hitter. It simplifies and supports and helps guide that right elbow from his centered hands at address. I don't understand why TGM 7th Edition has Delayed Hip Action.
Did he learn this on his own? I don't know how he could.
At address I visualize the clubhead action through the ball to produce that shot. From there I try to establish or program the required pressurepoint alignments in the hands. And I try to reproduce those through impact.
Physically, I start the back stroke with the hands and the feet at the same time. Minimal pivot resistance in the early part of the back stroke is important to me. I've never been successfully starting the back stroke with the right forearm alone and I often have to be deliberate about starting the pivot together with the hands.
With the putter, I've been quite successful in visually monitoring the clubhead path throughout the stroke. Monitoring with real time adjustment. You have to see the line and you have to see the intended clubhead path on both sides of the ball - and you have to see the clubhead travel. It is a no-compromise solution where the end goal has 100% presedence over physics. Forget the hands, forget the arms, forget the pivot. Be the putter. It really works.
I suffered for a very long time with turning back with my arms too tight to my body and everything went further haywire from there.
After a day with Yoda and reading Forums and The Book quite a bit and a ton of assistance from Kev Carter I had an epiphanous (sp?) moment with hands controlled pivot. I simply put my hands on the shelf where I wanted them. My left shoulder went under. Right shoulder went back. Butt pointed at the target line for the first time in years. Playing golf in the fall just got better and better. Kev recently pointed out my right hip wasn't getting out of the way. It does now.
Now it is -20 at night and barely above zero during the day. I still practice putting those hands on the shelf down in the dungeon.
MB, does your RFT feel like it is more in front of your right hip?
Or if you are horiz. hinging, does the RFT seem to move more around and to the shirt seam ?
Jerry, my friend, you can have an epiphany, but you may not use the word "epiphanous" since it is not a real word.
Patrick
Originally Posted by mb6606
Tracing the plane line with the right index finger using the RFT.
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Last edited by innercityteacher : 05-28-2010 at 09:39 PM.
I am currently working on maintaining EA while tracing the plane line. There are two approaches I've used. Firstly focusing on the right forearm initiating the backswing. Secondly having both hands moving together to trace the plane line with my right index finger.
From reading this thread I am wondering with a RFT whether I should I start by clearing the right hip? I haven't been doing that consciously, just letting my body do what it wants to make way for the forearm to trace the plan back and then through.
I have been working with the both hands option as an alternative to the RFT because I find myself with an RFT having different amounts of left forearm rotation on the backswing and so I get inconsistency of face alignment at contact. I often get an open clubface at impact with RFT and not so much with taking both hands back together. When I take both hands back together - still tracing the plane line with my right forefinger - I get more consistency with squaring my clubface.
For me tracing the plane line is simply what was stated by someone earlier - pointing my finger at the plane line and then moving my hands back and then forward still pointing at that line, which is usually the target line. In a swing because the right forefinger is bent that means my first finger joint is doing the pointing because my finger is curled around the grip.
This is something I have only been working on for a week or so but I am finding that if I maintain EA while tracing the plane then I really don't think about anything else in the golf swing. Like some others have said I feel that I actually have a lot of EA, not the "straightening the cuff" level of push, quite a bit more than that. And so my swing feels a little stiff. But it isn't and I am getting very good power and so far good chipping and pitching results. Only had one session at the range full swing working on this, so still got to see how it goes. Promising start but the reality was that most of the shots I lost EA and my mind jumped out of my hands. So work in progress, but very positive short game results.
I am currently working on maintaining EA while tracing the plane line. There are two approaches I've used. Firstly focusing on the right forearm initiating the backswing. Secondly having both hands moving together to trace the plane line with my right index finger.
From reading this thread I am wondering with a RFT whether I should I start by clearing the right hip? I haven't been doing that consciously, just letting my body do what it wants to make way for the forearm to trace the plan back and then through.
I have been working with the both hands option as an alternative to the RFT because I find myself with an RFT having different amounts of left forearm rotation on the backswing and so I get inconsistency of face alignment at contact. I often get an open clubface at impact with RFT and not so much with taking both hands back together. When I take both hands back together - still tracing the plane line with my right forefinger - I get more consistency with squaring my clubface.
For me tracing the plane line is simply what was stated by someone earlier - pointing my finger at the plane line and then moving my hands back and then forward still pointing at that line, which is usually the target line. In a swing because the right forefinger is bent that means my first finger joint is doing the pointing because my finger is curled around the grip.
This is something I have only been working on for a week or so but I am finding that if I maintain EA while tracing the plane then I really don't think about anything else in the golf swing. Like some others have said I feel that I actually have a lot of EA, not the "straightening the cuff" level of push, quite a bit more than that. And so my swing feels a little stiff. But it isn't and I am getting very good power and so far good chipping and pitching results. Only had one session at the range full swing working on this, so still got to see how it goes. Promising start but the reality was that most of the shots I lost EA and my mind jumped out of my hands. So work in progress, but very positive short game results.
Very interesting post Weetbix! Where are you feeling the pressure of EA, PP #1?
I will be very interested in hearing updates as you go.
When you look at:
12-3-0 MECHANICAL CHECKLIST FOR ALL STROKES
Extensor action is mentioned at 9 of the 12 sections of the golf stroke, yet no one outside of those who understand the work of Homer Kelley teach it.
Good stuff Weetbix!
Kevin
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Hi Kev. Haven't bumped into each other for a while. I hope you are well. Have a great Christmas.
Where do I feel the pressure of EA? I feel it through my right tricep, and on the top of the left thumb. But mostly the tricep pushing away from my body.
What I find about EA is that it actually helps a lot of things, including helping me not flip through impact. But I am still getting used to it. Today it reinforced that I need to keep my mind in my hands. I lose EA if I don't, and I get flippy.
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