LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Path/Plane Assistance Thread: Path/Plane Assistance View Single Post #7 07-25-2010, 12:10 AM BC85 Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 36 Thank you all for replying, I really appreciate it. Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket A couple of things . . . if your ball is starting LEFT it's because of the FACE. You may not be over the top . . . you could just have the face rotating too fast or just not open enough. Do you hit pull hooks or pull slices? I may be misunderstanding this matter (so correct me if I'm wrong), but if the ball is starting left due to a closed club-face only, shouldn't the divot still be pointing straight along the target line? Due to all my divots pointing left of the target line on my misses, I just assumed it was a path/plane issue. I generally hit pull hooks but occasionally hit pull slices as well. Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket To your question on plane . . . your arc is going to be more acute (sharper) depending on the plane angle you select if you imagine your hand covering a line on the ground. Ideally you'd like to stay on the same arc the whole time back and through. The steeper the plane angle the more close the "arc" or "line" will be closer to "straight" back. That makes perfect sense, thank you. Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket The ball for the most part is going to START OUT WHERE THE FACE IS LOOKING AND CURVE AWAY FROM THE PATH. The face is generally worth about 85% of the start line NOT THE PATH. Should I research the D-Plane more (if this is what you're referring to)? Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket Hard to say without a down the line but it looks like you could "use the ground" LONGER . . . try to move your pivot longer where you feel like you're going to hit pushes. Keep the pivot going and it will keep the face from rolling as fast. I will try to get some more video (with face-on and down-the-line angles) uploaded tonight. I agree in regards to the pivot. However, I don't know how to execute it correctly. I have tried the drills in "Alignment Golf" but it hasn't worked for me. This was my downfall whilst trying "Stack and Tilt" as well, as I was unable to slide my hips laterally. Originally Posted by O.B.Left Research "Startdown Waggles". I will look into it, thanks. Originally Posted by O.B.Left Since golf is played on an Inclined Plane the clubhead does move in to out as it approaches the ball! This will produce the straight divot! (which actually has a little arc to it) Trying to hold the clubheads path in a straight line is "Steering" and non planar. Keep swinging out till your divots go straight. This has been my main effort (consciously swinging in-to-out) since I am unable to execute the pivot correctly. At times it feels like I am swinging out 45 degrees. However, would this be considered a compensation or is it a feeling that is making me perform the mechanics correctly? Originally Posted by O.B.Left Get into 2-C-0 until you understand the correct impact geometry and the difference between it and all three forms of Steering. Much of the book will open up for you after you get the correct impact geometry sorted out. I'll also look in this, thanks. Originally Posted by innercityteacher Since impact is the test and the ball is a blabbermouth, maybe starting from Impact Fix would reveal the need for a longer pivot before release or too much head movement, or ball position adjustments, or too quick of a Flying Wedge (your hands) release? When I started using the Impact Fix position, I was able to reverse engineer a lot of insights. "Impact Fix" confuses me slightly. Is it just to create a feeling of impact before playing the shot or is there more to it? BC85 View Public Profile Send a private message to BC85 Find all posts by BC85